i was watching dr. fredrick price this am. i always enjoy and respect his teaching. he stated that the lords prayer is not a christian prayer, then ran out of time before he had a chance to explain. it really got my wheels turning. my best guess is that jesus taught the prayer for the old convenant. the kingdom that we ask for in the prayer, christian faith says is already here. it became after the death of jesus and the new covenant. could you please give insight or your thoughts on this explanation.
2006-09-03 16:43:00 · 8 answers · asked by temp73 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It was the way that Christ taught his disciples to pray.
Why would this person say then that it wasn't a Christian prayer? Perhaps because it doesn't say, "In Jesus' name"? Jesus had not yet died for our sins when he taught that prayer--so that could be what this person meant.
I believe that the Lord's Prayer is a Christian prayer since it is Christ's own words.
2006-09-03 16:48:11 · answer #1 · answered by Gestalt 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm not sure what Dr. Fredrick meant by the Lord's Prayer not being a Christian prayer by even the word Christian is pretty vague with all of the religions out there nowadays.
What I do know is that the Kingdom that is prayed for is in Heaven (established in 1914) not on Earth. Jesus is King of this Kingdom. We have yet to have the Earth cleansed and reinstated back to the original state of perfection (Revelation 21) and many humans will be restored to perfection and live on a perfect Earth under the rule of this Kingdom. What a difference it will be to live under a perfect rulership rather than under imperfect human governments! Interestingly, it states at Matthew 6:7 "But when praying, do not say the same things over and over again...".
2006-09-03 23:54:30 · answer #2 · answered by rkathleenf 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Who is Dr. Fredrick Price and why would he even say something like this if he didn't have time to explain it?
It could be said that The Lord's Prayer isn't a Christian prayer because Jesus was Jewish and Christianity didn't really begin until after the Resurrection. But, I believe the prayer says everything that a Christian needs to bring to God in prayer.
2006-09-03 23:51:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am confused by Dr. Fredrick's statement also.
Although the Lord's Prayer could properly be prayed by observant Jews (which Jesus and his apostles were), it is also a truly Christian prayer.
I have even read that the Lord's Prayer can be seen as a summary of the entire Gospel.
With love in Christ.
2006-09-04 00:15:29 · answer #4 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I can understand why this got your wheels turning! The Lord's Prayer is the preeminent Christian prayer! Why? First of all, because it was given to the Church by Christ Himself! If nothing else, that already makes it a Christian prayer. Next, it is a prayer that has been said by the Christian Church for more than 2,000 years in every place Christianity is believed. This makes it a Christian prayer. Thirdly, it contains in a few small lines a tremendous wealth of Christian theology. It speaks of the Holy Trinity ("Our Father who art in heaven", referring to God the Father; "Hallowed be Thy Name", referring to God the Son, who is the express image or Name of the Father; "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done", referring to the Holy Spirit whose indwelling within the body of the faithful is the kingdom of God come among us...).
I find it really hard to understand how an educated Christian scholar could make such a statement...
2006-09-04 00:58:08 · answer #5 · answered by LDRship 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The answers that you search for are in Mathew 6:6-13. There you will find the Lord's prayer. Jesus was teaching his disciples how to pray. The kingdom is not in place on earth yet. The kingdom will be here after satan's time is up.
2006-09-04 00:39:41 · answer #6 · answered by tessababyboo 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In the spring of the year 31 of our Common Era, or when Jesus Christ was thirty-one years old, he taught the famous prayer known generally as the Lord’s Prayer, including the request to God in heaven, “Thy kingdom come.” Few persons seem to realize that this prayer was a part of his famous Sermon on the Mount. This Sermon opens up with the so-called Beatitudes or nine Happinesses, the first one of which says: “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.” Another statement of this Happiness says: “Happy are you poor, because yours is the kingdom of God.” In that same Sermon on the Mount Jesus Christ taught what has been called the Golden Rule, in these words: “All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must likewise do to them.”
In this Sermon Jesus also said concerning our earthly needs: “Your heavenly Father knows you need all these things. Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.” (Matt. 5:1-4; Luke 6:20; Matt. 7:12; 6:32, 33) Jesus thus put God’s kingdom ahead of all our earthly needs, as being of the highest importance. He did not say to seek first the kingdom of this country or the kingdom of that country, or the presidency of the United States of America or any other worldly office, but said to seek first God’s kingdom together with God’s righteousness. Very evidently, then, the heavenly kingdom of God must be of the greatest value and importance, and we rightly ought to pray for it to come, as Jesus Christ taught his true followers to do.
So, what does this 'kingdom' consist of? According to the scriptures, it contains the full scope of it's control- both on earth, and in the heavenly spirit realm.
Jesus said that the 'kingdom of God was in their midst' in that, as the principal part and King of that kingdom, he himself was in their midst.
The kingdom wouldn't have a 'full effect' with regard to earthly things until much later. This is seen in that after being resurrected to the heavens, Jesus sat at the 'right hand' of God, until he was told to act. (Psalms 110:1)
The kingdom will have the power to provide food for all the earth, remove sickness earthwide, and raise the dead back to life; will do away with all human governments, and itself remaining forever. (Psalms 72:16; Isaiah 33:24; Revelation 21:4; Daniel 2:44)
2006-09-04 00:10:50 · answer #7 · answered by Average Guy 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In matt6:9-14
This then is how you should pray
our father in heaven
hollowed be your name
your kingdom come
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven
give us today our daily bread
forgive us our debts
as we also have forgiven our debtors
And lead us not into temptation
but deliver us from the evilne
for if you forgive men when they sin against you your heavenly father will also fogive you
but if you do not forgive men their sins your father will not forgive your sins.
this should be done in close doors to the lord.
2006-09-04 00:19:11 · answer #8 · answered by ? 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋