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The FIGURATIVE LANGUAGE is used of BOTH Satan and Jesus, the kjv mistranslates it in Isaiah, but most modern versions correctly translate it.

The use of a particular bit of FIGURATIVE LANGUAGE in no way prevents ANOTHER USE OF THE SAME FIGURE.

The kjv whacko fringe says that by CORRECTLY TRANSLATING Isaiah 14:12, the NIV is calling Jesus Satan. This is absolutely false, bordering on ludicrous. Yes, the Apocalypse DOES CALL Jesus the "morning star" but that DOES NOT MEAN HE IS A PLANET. FIGURATIVELY calling someone else that planet DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE SAME... NEITHER IS LITERALLY A PLANET. There is no simpler way to put it, yet so many people cannot understand this simple point.

2006-09-03 14:11:30 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Venus was known as Lucifer, daystar, morning star. There is no devil and Satan is a reference to Saturn or "satanic" the worship of Saturn. There is no such thing as a devil, satan or any other evil bad guy. All of these metaphors such as Jesus ( the sun) Satan (saturn) Lucifer (venus) are all astro theological. The oldest and most ubiquitous battle ever was that of light and darkness. Light being seen as intellectual and spiritual enLIGHTenment and darkness as uneducated ignorance. Anyone who reads the bible with an objective view can plainly see the relationship to astronomy it is very plain to see. Also everyone can plainly see the only thing that brings light to the world is gods "SUN" it is not a man. I find it odd that all religions are astrological in design and nature yet religious people call astrology or astronomy the work of the devil. There is way more to the picture than most people are willing to admit. The divine creator is beyond understanding especially if we cannot even understand the creation itself.

2014-08-13 16:56:54 · answer #2 · answered by PJ 1 · 1 0

ANGELS DO NOT DIE AND ARE CALLED STARS OR THE SONS OF GOD Luke 20:34-36; Rev.5:11; They number in thousands Matt.26:53; John 17:3,5,24; Jesus was with God before the world was. Job 38:4-7; Angels saw earth as the focus for habitation.
Rev.22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Gen.6:4; Job.38:4-7; All angels are called stars or sons of God. Job 2:1-6 Satan is no exception. Nations or territory leaders are intwined with Satan the devil Isa.14:11-15;
Eze.28:12-17; Satan was the cherub anointed over Eden. Jesus faced him to have the Roman Empire offered to him Matt.4:1-11; Jesus told him God alone is to be worshiped.

Satan is the god of this world 2Cor.4:3,4 [ 11:14 ]; Is judged Rev.20:1-6,7-10;
Michael can handle Satan Jude 9: Dan.10:13,21; 12:1-13; Rev.12:7-12;

Angels that sinned before the flood Gen.6:2,4; Jude 6; 1Pet.3:18-20; 2Pet.2:4; are waiting for th judgement day and the judges 1Cor.6:2,3;

Matt.25:31-34; Angel play a part in the second coming of Jesus.

2006-09-03 14:47:31 · answer #3 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

According to Wikipedia: Lucifer is a fallen angel commonly associated with Satan, the embodiment of evil and enemy of God. Lucifer is generally considered, based on the influence of Christian literature and legend, to have been a prominent archangel in heaven (although some contexts say he was a cherub or a seraph), prior to having been motivated by pride to rebel against God. When the rebellion failed, Lucifer was cast out of heaven, along with a third of the heavenly host, and came to reside on the world.

Lucifer was originally a Latin word meaning "light-bearer" (from lux, "light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), a Roman astrological term for the "Morning Star", the planet Venus. The word Lucifer was the direct translation of the Greek eosphorus ("dawn-bearer"; cf. Greek phosphorus, "light-bearer") used by Jerome in the Vulgate. In that passage, Isaiah 14:12, it referred to one of the popular honorific titles of a Babylonian king; however, later interpretations of the text, and the influence of embellishments in works such as Dante's The Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, led to the common idea in Christian mythology and folklore that Lucifer was a poetic appellation of Satan.

2006-09-03 14:03:57 · answer #4 · answered by AuroraDawn 7 · 1 0

Sara, you really need to do some research about a subject, BEFORE you ask a question. Everyone so far, has pretty much aced your question. Lucifer, means Light-giver. He was a most beautiful angel, but, pride is a bad thing, especially when you try to take down God, so he was cast out of Heaven and from then on called Satan, which means adversary.

2006-09-03 14:16:51 · answer #5 · answered by creeklops 5 · 1 2

Yes .. The anglicised inference of the Isaiah scripture is badly botched Hebrew .. not even close .. and a manipulation by a Latin clergy translator .. The Christian ideas of "evil" are often tortured confessions they extracted .. The Christians wrote these .. and had those of other faiths sign these confessions while under the duress of tortures .. In that way they confirmed and established their own twisted ideations of nemeses ...

2006-09-03 14:50:41 · answer #6 · answered by gmonkai 4 · 0 0

Lucifer was considered to be the most beautiful angel in heaven, by God. Thus the reference to "light". Lucifer became jealous of God and led a rebellion, which God defeated.

2006-09-03 14:07:25 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Satan and Lucifer are the same person and no matter how you look at him, he is eveil and only out to try and get you to do what's wrong. Satan wants us to fail and he will do whatever is necessary to fail. God want sus to succeed and do what it takes to see us succeed.

2006-09-03 14:05:16 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Well, I dunno. Lucifer was once an angel, you know. Arrogance, also known as hubris, is not exactly looked upon with favor by the Creator.

"To err is human; to persist in error is demonic." -- St Augustine

Ever read "Paradise Lost" by John Milton? It's worth the time.

2006-09-03 14:05:59 · answer #9 · answered by Joya 5 · 0 0

Where does it say Liciffer is the morning star? He isn't so the rest of your question is just drivel.

2006-09-03 14:05:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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