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There is no sound biblical basis for associating Lucifer with Satan, where then does the story come from that he is a rebellious angel and fell because of pride?

2006-09-03 13:48:08 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Phd. Jeffrey Burton Russell (Professor of History at The University of California) wrote a brilliant four book series on this subject .. It is actually that complex .. It involves deciphering the varied pagan faiths that the Christians methodically exterminated , in order to see the process of incorporating the gods of these Old Faiths to become the evil deities of the New Faith ..
It is likely that Morningstar, and Lucifer worship was practiced by some Visigoths .. as there appears to have been some remnants of it persecuted among the Cathars in the Albigensian heresy Inquistion in France .. The Cathars made the mistake of equating the Morningstar and Lucifer with Jesus .. They paid for this heresy with their lives ..
Some feel the Teutonic worship of "Loge" was also morningstar worship ...

2006-09-03 14:42:16 · answer #1 · answered by gmonkai 4 · 1 0

It's all in the Bible. Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:11-19; Luke 10:18; Revelation 12:7-9

2006-09-03 13:50:56 · answer #2 · answered by it's just me 2 · 0 0

You have had plenty of people to answer with Isaiah 14:12, so obviously, many people know the story of Lucifer, an angel, planning to try to take over God's throne, but God cast him out before he could. Maybe you should read a little scripture for research, BEFORE asking a question.

2006-09-03 14:08:41 · answer #3 · answered by creeklops 5 · 0 0

First, Satan is Lucifer. The 'devil' has a thousand different names. You could also call him the Prince of Air, Prince of Darkness, the Fallen ... et cetera.

I believe Genesis references his inability to bow down to humans, which is exactly why he 'fell'.

However, much of what remains in the public conscience regarding ol' Lucy is folklore.

2006-09-03 13:51:06 · answer #4 · answered by Adrian 2 · 0 0

Satan has long been known as Lucifer, the "Glittering One" and the false "Morning Star".

There are numerous direct biblical references, and lots of indirect refrences, too.

2006-09-03 13:55:22 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

When Lucifer was cast out of Heaven, one third of all the angels were cast out with him. (Rev.12:4,9)

Lucifer became Satan, and the fallen angels became Demons.

2006-09-03 13:54:46 · answer #6 · answered by Marco 3 · 0 0

there are such numerous diverse cultures that fall below the umbrella term Muslim. It like lumping each form Christianity at the same time and asking what they placed on. besides diverse sects of Islam having diverse regulations bearing directly to clothing, the individuals who prepare it come from all corners of the globe and gown in a diverse way counting on what the norms are the place they stay. Norms additionally fluctuate counting on the area like while you're outdoors of the homestead or interior the homestead or individuals of the different gender are latest.

2016-11-06 09:07:55 · answer #7 · answered by ai 4 · 0 0

There is no sound biblical basis for anything ! Just Hype from
some demented mind.

2006-09-03 13:51:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Here's a "Questions from Readers" on the topic:

Questions From Readers

· Is Lucifer a name that the Bible uses for Satan?

The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”

The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.” The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means “bringer of dawn.” Hence, some translations render the original Hebrew “morning star” or “Daystar.” But Jerome’s Latin Vulgate uses “Lucifer” (light bearer), and this accounts for the appearance of that term in various versions of the Bible.

Who is this Lucifer? The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.” Thus, it is part of a saying primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty. That the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature is further seen by the statement: “Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind—not a place occupied by Satan the Devil. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” Clearly, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature.—Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.

Why is such an eminent description given to the Babylonian dynasty? We must realize that the king of Babylon was to be called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way. (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride prompted Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them. So great was the arrogance of the dynasty that it is portrayed as bragging: “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”—Isaiah 14:13, 14.

“The stars of God” are the kings of the royal line of David. (Numbers 24:17) From David onward, these “stars” ruled from Mount Zion. After Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the name Zion came to apply to the whole city. Under the Law covenant, all male Israelites were obliged to travel to Zion three times a year. Thus, it became “the mountain of meeting.” By determining to subjugate the Judean kings and then remove them from that mountain, Nebuchadnezzar is declaring his intention to put himself above those “stars.” Instead of giving Jehovah credit for the victory over them, he arrogantly puts himself in Jehovah’s place. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the “shining one.”

The pride of the Babylonian rulers indeed reflected the attitude of “the god of this system of things”—Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above Jehovah God. But Lucifer is not a name Scripturally given to Satan.

2006-09-03 13:55:34 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

This entire parable was added in by Pope Constantine, when he was in his midst of changing Christianity to suit his purposes of the time...a fear factor only...no basis, or even common sense, whatsoever.

2006-09-03 13:54:41 · answer #10 · answered by MsET 5 · 0 0

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