How many Catholics here know about the dark past of the Catholic Church?

Question

http://www.romancatholicism.org/popes-jews.htm

Read it.

Sad but true.

Answer 1

Most of us do.

Just like we know about the killings by the Protestant Reformation during Henry VIII's reign and how priests and Catholics were murdered, the church lands confiscated and how Englands Anglican Church was created that placed a murdering, multi-time divorced selfish man at the head of its' church as the true representative of God.

Let's not forget about the fundamentalist Muslims that promote killing, raping, lying, stealing, and basically anything they have to do to make the rest of the world a fundamentalist Islamic state.....including killing moderate Muslims since they are traitors.

And how about the liberal left with their bible of Roe vs Wade, killing unborn babies and justifying it by saying they don't have souls, constant mud-slinging and conspiracy theories to stir up people so they can win elected positions then sit on their rich *sses and continue to contribute to the problems of the world instead of being part of the solution.

Oh, yes, and last but not least.......how about all of the religion bashers that are so angry and full of yourselves that you constantly are led around by the nose by Satan who tells you to crap all over God's faithful followers who do none of the above, worship God, are faithful to God's commandments, are loving, law abiding citizens who work constantly to do some good and are hard working people who try to be part of the solution to the worlds problems by giving money, time and talents to different charitable causes that work hard to make the world a better place.

Now shut up and stop wasting our time.

We have better things to do and more productive ways to help the world.

Why can't you do the same instead of being selfish, belly-aching, constantly complaining whiners who don't have a clue and try to pass yourselves off as "educated".

Answer 2

Let's try to avoid overlaying the views held by our modern day society on the motivations and actions of those in past times.

The two are virtually incompatible.

There has always been a struggle between those who were charged with protecting and defending the truth and those who wanted their own version of the truth to prevail.

The Jews brutally persecuted Christians long before the Romans did. Even after the Jews were dispersed, they continued to promote many anti Christian concepts and practices, and they did it in flagrant disregard for the effect it might have on the faithful, and often on themselves.

There have also been numerous heresies over the ages, some of which enjoyed large followings among rank and file Christians, and which had the real potential of deceiving millions, right into hell.

The pope and the church are charged with the primary responsibility of fighting heresy and defending the true faith.

The power of the church was also near universally backed by all the various kings and princes.

Once a problem was discovered, the reckoning tended to be very swift and very sure, although the offending parties were typically given several opportunities to repent before any serious punishment resulted.

As for Fox's Book of Martyrs, except for some of the stories of the early martyrs, all the rest is a purely political statement that is so biased and full of anti-Catholic propaganda that it shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.

The true, historical facts (which Fox obviously has no use of) speak for themselves.

Answer 3

Probably nearly every Catholic that has ever lived knows of Church history. Ignorance of history condemns one to repeat it. But Catholics are often aware of the Protestant histories that most Protestants ignore. The Reformation was a civil war cloaked as a religious movement.

Unlike Protestants who eject history from their theology, Catholics understand the working of the Spirit throughout history to be important to understanding God. Part of that history is a history of man and sin. Sola scriptura doesn't work both ways. If you believe in scripture alone, you tend to ignore the rest of the truth and the real history of the world.

To view the Catholic Church as having a dark past is to ignore the sin in the present. Until the Second Coming God and Man will have to contend with Man's sin. The Church will forever be set aside for the purpose of serving the Father and will forever be failing, its successes dependent soley upon the Grace of the Holy Spirit supporting us and the lessons of the Master guiding us.

Protestants tend not to point out their own dark past or dark present. Catholics tend to be more charitable. If you are interested in Protestantism's dark past you should read a history of the Anabaptists. It is a wonderful history of Protestant on Protestant violence. Luther burned 20.000 anabaptists at the stake. They believed in the priesthood of all believers. Luther fixed that.

On the opposite side of the coin, the anabaptists were originally very violent. They came to your town to see if you were saved. If you weren't then they killed you.

Answer 4

I know about it but I am not a Christian. In fact, I only replied to ask this: Is this the worst you could dig up? They have much worse, for example, the Inquisition (Inquisitio Haereticae Pravitatis Sanctum Officium)...
And to the people that said that Catholics couldn't all be perfect: Between being less than perfect and torturing people goes a long way.

Answer 5

How many Catholics truly, truly understand grace as opposed to works?

Many Catholics simply choose not to educate themselves.

Have you ever read, A Woman Rides the Beast, by Dave Hunt? Powerful read on the RCC.

Answer 6

Suggested reading for Catholics:

"Fox's Book of Martyrs"

Answer 7

I'm not catholic but here's something for you. Sad but True.

Answer 8

I was aware of that. And a lot of trangressions of the popes as well.

Answer 9

We do learn our history and you should also know that not all that is recorded is the truth and also that history is useful as a lesson of what not to do. Do you know your history?

Answer 10

Come on...it's 2000 years old...with millions...if you can't find some wrong doings that would be impossible...we are talking about millions of PEOPLE...you'll find problems!

Are you perfect?