when god paid the price for my sins - who did he pay?

Question

who was requesting the payment? if god requested the payment that he himself paid - then im sorry - but that is one crazy religion u have there.

it would be like if i had £100. would i be able to ask myself that i pay myself the £100? And if i did what purpose would it serve. I would have £100 - which is precisely what i had before i asked myself to pay myself £100.

Can u see why it is such a slly concept?

Answer 1

The first thing that someone should be considering is whether the idea of sin is actually real.

If God is supposed to be perfect how could She have made anything or anyone that wasn't perfect.
Think about it. The idea of sin assumes certain things about God that seem highly unlikely.

First it assumes a God who is too incompetent to organize a simple educational field excursion and figure out a way to get all of the students home safely.

How likely is this that God would not be smart enough to come up with a plan for our salvation that is going to work?

It also assumes that God must have created us imperfect if we are sinners.

One might assume that God would be able to create someone perfect each and every time if he chose to. Assuming God is capable of this, then it follows logically that we must be perfect creations if we are actually creations of this perfect God.

Unless of course you are saying that God chose to create us imperfect.

If God created us imperfect then anything that may go wrong is Gods fault, not ours. This seems a bit illogical at best so I think that we need to assume that What God creates would have to be perfect.

If this is the case and Gods creations are perfect, then nothing that we can do could change what God created perfect and make it imperfect unless we think that we are more powerful than God is.

How likely is it that we the creation could be more powerful than the creator. I personally find this idea somewhat amusing, and a bit absurd.

Religion tells us that God is perfect. If this is true then it could hardly be logically for Gods creations to be considered to be anything less than perfect.

If this is the case then Nothing that we can ever do could possibly change this perfection that God willed, unless we were so powerful that our choices could override and change the will of God.

How likely is that????

Think about it.

The idea of sin is simple nonsense; a lie made up about God by religion.

Love and blessings
don

Source --- Course in miracles

Answer 2

ok. I'll get into this with you. God the father didn't pay the price, Jesus did. God provided the way. God demanded the price be paid in the ancient times. Do you believe He demanded a blood sacrifice? Apparently all the pagan religions got wind of it, so they had blood sacrifices too! There was apparently some amount of time that had gone by without blood sacrifice in the temple before the Crucifixion. I think Pauls' (a real Jewish scholar)"job" was to refresh their memory about the blood sacrifice thing and the way that God had provided for the people to come to Him without priests. Jesus was the pure, little lamb who was the blood sacrifice. Don't we have a bloody, crazy religion. God demanded blood, then had to make a way so they didn't need to anymore, so, he had to give them his son for the blood to offer him to end it.

Answer 3

My Dear,

You are not a Christian that i can see but I will pray for you coz you don't know wht you are doing. Maybe if you tried to read the Bible and ask any fellow Christians to explain to you or rather pray for understanding before saying such things it would be of much help. I am a Christian myself and I really you will get a better understanding of God then all these questions you have will be answered by His Grace. And to other people out there, Christian or non Christian, God is sacred. This is no time to be making jokes as we all know it is blasphemous but instead seek His grace and mercy. surely we have many other things to joke about but for everybodys' sake can you please respect the God I believe in and He will bless you.

Answer 4

you have an interpretation of a 1st grader on a long before answered concept. And you are being silly.

When God paid the price for OUR sins, he paid the devil.

Read the bible. During Jesus fasting before He was crucified, the devil offered Jesus all the wealth of the earth in exchange for the souls of the people. Jesus asked him what would be the price he should pay to save all these people from hell. Then He gave his life.

If that is difficult for you to understand, that is because you do not believe.

Answer 5

There is a story which I saw on here a few days ago.
A man once appeared before a judge who happened to be his closest friend. The judge fined the man the maximum amount allowed by law, then paid the fine himself.

Not a really good analogy, but much closer than yours.

Answer 6

God has a salvation plan. Hey it is his plan so we really can’t criticize his plan. So here is the plan

God knew before he decided to create (i.e. the whole shooting match i.e. the universe) that man/woman would eventually sin (sin = miss the target, i.e. not remain perfect the way god originally created man/woman)

Since god create man/woman with FREE will. God knew even before He created man/woman that they would eventually decide to want to do things their own way and do something that went against god's perfect will (i.e. sin).

So instead of god just deciding not to create man/woman, he came up with a plan to set things (all of the sins of mankind) straight.

HERE IS THE PLAN:

God the father asked God the son if he (the son) would be willing to pay the sin debt for all of humanity. The son who has perfect love for his father said he (the son) would pay the price. Knowing that his father wanted so much to 'create all that we know'.

THE PRICE of sin is death. So the 'son of god' had to endure human death. And not only was it just dying but suffering a brutal, humiliating, gut-wrenching death.

Who requested the Payment? ans: god the father.

Who made the payment? ans: god the son.

So I guess you can say that god paid himself to set things right. And I guess you need to believe in the trinity to believe this explanation.

But God knew that man/woman did not have the ability to pay the debt. So he satisfied the debt in the best way he could imagine. Since God is a perfect being, he could not allow anything but perfection to abide with him in heaven. So that meant that imperfect man/woman had to be made perfect before allowing anyone into heaven. The perfect solution was to have his son correct the problem with his (God the son's) substitutionary sacrifice.

Since God the father was willing to sacrifice his own son and his son was willing to endure this for his father; you have God asking Abraham if he was willing to sacrifice his son Isaac. When God saw the Abraham was willing that proved to God that Abraham was his 'man'.

The Jewish religion has continued this tradition of the substitutionary sacrifice throughout the Old Testament by sacrificing some animal for their sins.

Thus the word scapegoat. Thus the Passover miracle in which the blood of the sacrificed lamb was placed over the front door mantle preserving the Israelites from the angel of death. Thus the reason that Jesus is referred to as the "lamb of God".

Jesus' sacrifice paid the sin debt for any person who wants to take advantage of that sacrifice. That is why Jesus is referred to as our Savior.

Sounds crazy... but it's a perfect plan to let us imperfect humans into heaven.

Answer 7

It's nothing silly about this and it's not a concept. People going to Hell daily because they fail to see what God wants for there life which is obedience and relationship. Jesus redeemed you from the curse of the laws and you must pay him with your life and except the gift of salvation by confessing ur sins and repent. Give ur life to Christ today!
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Answer 8

Let's set the record straight.
In the beginning, God created Jesus as an Angel.
After creation when as a man Jesus gave his earthly life as ransom for mankind's redemption, as a perfect man on the alter as animals were in previous years. His perfect life was the payment to God his father, naturally symbolic.
After his life was lost as a man, he was given eternal life as a God. Reward from God his father in Heaven, and back to his original life with God, forever............From Angel to man, from man to God! Wow.

Answer 9

The wages of sin is death.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

People in this world are totally clueless when it comes to sin and what it costs us. If it werent for Jesus being crucified on the cross so our sins would be paid for, we would still be sacrificeing lambs every year to pay for the sins of our families today. The cleansing of sins comes from the shedding of blood. This is God's law.

Through accepting Jesus as your savior, you become born again and recieve eternal life because Jesus used himself as the ultimate lamb of God, so His shedding of His blood covers all mankind's sins. And all we are asked to do by God is, Accept His son Jesus as our savior, repent of our sins, and live in service to the Lord.

Since we are all sinners and we sin daily, we must repent of our sins every day,and word hard at trying to improve on ourselves to change to parts of our selves that cause us to sin. Stay in the word of God every day, and you will be able to grow stronger in your faith and in your ability to resist temptation of satan. God know how hard you try to become a good and improved person in Jesus.

The only silly concept here is your taking this topic so lightly and being flip about it. But God will open your eyes. I just hope for yoursake, you wont wait too long and Jesus raptures His church and you get left behind with the rest of the non believers.

Answer 10

Jesus Christ "paying" for sins in advance is actually a left-over doctrine from the Middle Ages. Something like Calvisnism.