Question for evolutionists, about "creationists"?

Question

When you read people on yahoo answers who are "creationists" talk about evolution, do you just weep. We have a long way to go, don't we.

Answer 1

I just shake my head and sigh.

Answer 2

The fact that we as a society are again debating subjects that seemed to have been resolved long ago is very telling. Religious fundamentalism is creeping in all over the world, from the Middle East to right here in the U.S. As people strive to find answers to the problems of life around them, religion does, indeed, provide answers. But they're answers driven by dogma and one-sided morality, not rational thought.

So when creationists wrap up their old argument in the guise of "intelligent design" and actually gain traction with school boards (witness the see-saw voting in Kansas: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-08-01-kansas-evolution-vote_x.htm), it's frightening to think that fundamentalists are again able to hold so much influence.

Somehow, the notion that evolution is a "theory" opens the door for a lot of people to assert that if it's just one "theory," why not present all the differing "theories" and let students sort it out for themselves.

But that logic is flawed. In a science curriculum, a scientific "theory" isn't a guess, and it's not something to be compared side by side with a religious idea.

Should we, by that logic, teach students that man was fashioned from wood by a god (Nordic and Machiguenga myth), or via warring gods (Greek and Roman mythology), just because some part of the population believes it to be true?

The great underpinning to this country's origins is the precept that everyone should be able to believe (or not) in the religion of their choosing. The problem arises in any one group seeking to instill its beliefs over the rest of the population.

Answer 3

I know about theory,, I also know fact.... Repeated educated answers, showing the fault in the theory of evolution are ignored..
Creationism aside,, it is still bad science.
And I am not talking about just, "why if" statements.
I have constantly brought forth arguments, about the actual workings of mutation in a population, genetic and DNA structure and code, and survivability of theoretic transitions( theoretic, since none have been discovered). Yet all I hear about are uneducated Christians..
Are the evolutionist trying to debate the issue properly? No, all
they can do is yell long and loud about other theories being wrong.
Listen close evolutionist....... get your science right. Theoretical science is not operational science,,, in the theoretical realm, a closed mind will keep you from evaluating the evidence properly.

Answer 4

I was taught that a theory/scenario is considered as a scientific theory only if it intrinsically allows contradicting persons to pragmatically question it.

If they weren't anti-evolutionists, evolutionism wouldn't be considered as a scientific theory then.

So, I am very glad to watch anti-evolutionist questions. Every scientific theory needs contradicting persons in order to get rid of any potential intrinsic incoherence.

Creationism is a theory that intrinsically doesn't allow pragmatical contradictions. So it is not a scientific theory.

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I only trust exact sciences in this field, although I don't put Science on a pedestal. I am aware of its limits.

Personally, I believe in evolutionism, but maybe evolution is not as linear as described...

I keep an eye on updated scientific investigations in this field.

Answer 5

A long way to go? Isn't this just another case of trying to convert someone to a religion? I've seen this posted quite a bit lately, and I see the truth in it. You're just propagating another religion, whether you see it or not.

"Humanism is an ideological, political, and religious belief that denies the existence of God. Atheists are humanist, as are new-agers, and many others. The theory of evolution was developed by humanists to create a world devoid of God. Humanism today is prevalent in our media, schools, and government. The religious humanist believes, as the Humanist Manifesto states, that the religions of the world are outdated due to a vastly increased knowledge and experience, and are powerless to solve the problem of human living in this time. Christians know the power of God, but to the humanist the human is divine and must be responsible for furnishing adequate human goals and providing for the spiritual needs of today. Because humanists believe that the universe and its peoples are self-existing and not created, they believe humanism is the only religion capable of leading humans along the evolutionary path..."

Answer 6

At times they seem a "missing link" .. some odd hybrid of a throwback to before the dawn of reason .. At least they are still hominids despite poor frontal lobe development ...

Answer 7

Vice Versa!
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Answer 8

yes, but in truth we all have a long way to go each day. i do weep for our species, for what we have gone thru and what is still to come. there is only one answer, love. it can conquer all and will in time. those of us who know it's awsome power must hold on to one another until then and do our best to pay it forward.

Answer 9

it is a little frusterating at how many of them argue against evolution with points that arent valid.... im ok with them believing what they want to believe, but if they state something about evolution that isnt true, as a reason they dont believe it, i feel required to let them know...



PS- ariel, i am believer of evolution, and also a spiritual person (not devoid of belief in god/higher powers)... what do you make of that

Answer 10

Yes. I had a longer answer typed out, but all I can say is that I hope our children do better.