if god didnt create the world how do you think it was created?

Answer 1

BANG....a very big one!

Answer 2

I don't believe it was created. I believe it is based on necessary mathematical laws. If you think things need creators, then who created your god.

It is special pleading to require that all things require a creator except the creator . If everything has a creator , then your creator has a creator and that creator has a creator. You can see the problem. Now If you say everything has a creator but that the creator does not need a creator, then your creaor is not part of everything. If your creator is not part of everything then it doesn't exist.

It can be proven in mathematics that in order to design something a closed designing system must be at least as complicated (Kolmogorov Complexity) as what it is designing. If the argument complex beings require a designer had any validity then the designer would need a greater designer, and that designer would need an even greater designer etc.

It is funny creationists often make the argument that a bacteria is too complex to not be designed and then claim their infinitely more complex god just is and doesn't need to be designed cause it just is. Can we say the word "Hypocracy"? How about the words "Intellectual Dishonesty".

However we know from mathematics that something can appear to be designed without really being so. Just look at a fractal. The Mathematician Steven Cook proved a very very simple formula like Wolfram's rule 110 for example generates more apparent local complexity than is contained in the entire solar system.

We understand from mathematics how apparently complex systems come about and it is always due to selection effects. You take a simple but diverse set and select a complex subset from it. In order to do that you need a selecting agent. In the case of our universe we have a selecting agent. That selecting agent is our own existence.

The explaination is that reality is incredibly vast and diverse. Only in small apparently complex portions of that reality can beings such as ourselves evolve. It is not a coincidence, nor is it by chance we find ourselves in such a region. Instead it is a necessity.

It is a lot like the myopic snowflake who finds himself in a snowstorm and concludes he was designed by a snow pixie. His argument is that the world is the perfect temperature for snow to form. When in reality the world is vast and only in small portions of it can snowflakes form.

Or you can think of us as like a lottery winner who concludes there must be a cosmic cheater who rigged the lottery, when in fact there were simply millions of people buying lottery tickets and someone was bound to win.

Now that we have shown that a seemingly complex system does not need to be designed as long as it is part of a vast, diverse whole. How does that vast diverse whole come about. We obviously are getting into extremely difficult ideas here but several physicists are arguing that reality is based upon and indeed is, mathematics. By that they mean that reality consists of the class of necessarily true statements one can make about logical systems.

One physicist has even argued that the class of necessarily true statements one can make about logical systems is isomorphic ( mathematically identical ) to string theory. Basically arguing that nature is mathematically necessary. The reason it does not feel necessary is that we see so little of it, and that we see it from within it rather than seeing it as it really is.

So In conclusion there does not need to be a god. All that is necessary is a vast diversity. And that diversity might be simply logical necessity. Furthermore the requirement complex entities need designers is false and leads to infinite regression, and ultimately hypocracy and intellectual dishonesty.

Answer 3

Well the world,(earth) was created from the remnants of old supenovas. At least that is the prevailing scientific theory. Now. if you are talking about the universe then we are still seeking the answers. What strikes me as funny are Christians who find it hard to believe that we came from pond scum, and yet their own religion states that we came from a handful of dirt. Many Christians also use the old cause and effect argument to support the existence of a god. If that is so where did their god come from?

Answer 4

Isn't it just like the scientific minds here to push the idea of origins farther and farther back? Rob is presenting an amusing and entertaining picture of the nebulic behaviors in space but is not telling us a thing about beginnings. By creation I think it is safe to say that behind all the wonderful theories of mathematical theories and complexites Where did the something come from? Don't push it to the empirical existence of matter coming from a different shape or constitution. Physics and cosmology has already proven by einsteins theory that the whole space time continuum had a beginning and in Planck time physical laws all collapse into a density of matter smaller than the dotting of an i.
these people who think they are up on science with their talk of punctuated equilibrium and other fine big words need to get caught up with the fact that science cannot possibly tell us about what exists in infinity any more than it can prove that I retrieved the paper from my porch yesterday.

Answer 5

Natural forces.

Don't need to attempt to explain things by pretending there is a God doing things. Look for real reasons and not imaginary ones.

When you try to explain things by calling on God, you really have not explained anything. You have just closed your mind to understanding the world you live in.

Answer 6

In as much as I was not around to see how everything came into being (and neither were you),I say, "I don't know ..... YET!" To assume that some god, my less than intellectual ancestors made up, instantaneously farted the universe into being, is absurd

Answer 7

Well there are alot of theories, but I happen to believe that it was a great deal of energy, combined, yadda yadda...something like the Big Bang theory..No "God made it" for me.

Or, it was cheap labor outsourced from the U.S.

Answer 8

Duct tape and wd-40.
All the stuff that needed to be stuck together was stuck together with Duct tape and all the stuff that needed to be pulled apart was sprayed with wd-40.

Answer 9

Amen to Alan Turing.

Answer 10

God did create the world in my opinion.

Answer 11

The simplest answer is that it wasn't created.