The concept of trinity does not exist in the Bible. See the references below?

Question

The concept of trinity does not exist in the Bible. The only verse which is closest to the concept of ‘trinity’, is the 1st Epistle of John, Chapter No.5, Verse No.7, which says… ‘For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the word and the holy ghost, and these 3 are one. But if you read the Revised Standard Version, revised by 32 scholars… Christian scholars, of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co-operative denominations, they say… ‘This verse of the Bible - 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5 Verse No.7 is an interpolation, is a concoction, is a fabrication’ - It was thrown out of the Bible. Jesus Christ peace be upon him, never claimed Divinity. There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus Christ peace be upon him says… ‘I am God’ - or where he says… ‘Worship me’. Infect if you read the Bible, it is mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chapter No.14, Verse No.28 - he said…‘My Father is greater than I’; Gospel of John, Chapter No.10, Verse No.29…‘My Father is greater than all’; Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No.12, Verse No.28…‘I cast out devils with the spirit of God’; Gospel of Luke, Chapter No.11, Verse No.20…‘I with the finger of God, cast out devil’; Gospel of John, Chapter No.5, Verse No.30… ‘I can of my own self do nothing’…‘I can of my own self do nothing - As I hear, I judge and my judgement is just, for I seek not my own will, but the will of my Father.’ Anyone who says… ‘Not my will but God’s will’ - he is a Muslim. Muslim means the person who submits his’ will to almighty God. Jesus Christ peace be upon him said…‘Not my will but God’s will.’ He was a Muslim

Answer 1

I totally agree... People seem to sometimes invent new ideas according to what makes sense to them. That's why there are so many different branches of the same faith. Belief in three gods is not beliefe in one true God. It wouldn't fit in with the old testament.

Answer 2

Matt.6:9-13[ LORDS Prayer is to God] ; 22:37-40 [ Rom.13:8,9; first and great commandment to love God];
John 14:14; 16:23; Pray to the Father and God of Jesus and us in the name.
Jesus the son that died for the New Testament Heb.9:15,16; Even telling Satan, Thou shalt worship the LORD they God Matt.4:10; Telling the whole world Matt.24:3,7,14,15,22,34,36-38 [ Only God knows the day and hour ]; when the world that has existed from Eden with Satan in it will end ]; no angel knows, Jesus does not know only God knows. Heb.2:9,14,16 [ Jesus has earned the right to destroy Satan and death 1Cor,15:22-28;

John 17:3,5,24; Jesus was with God before the world was.
Job.38:4-7; The angels saw earth become the focus for habitation so when.
God said after 41, 870 years " LET US MAKE MAN", Gen 2:26; there were ears to hear him, he was not speaking to a trinity.

He along with John 17:1-26; The Elect and the Holy Angels united in harmony as one and in full agreement with the God and Father of us all John 20:17; by the HOLY SPIRIT/GHOST of which there is no forgivness if one does blaspheme against this Matt.12:31; all other sins are forgiveable, so this rules out any posibility of a trinity. THERE IS NO TRINITY.

Answer 3

The Bible shows very clearly that there is only one God, and yet that there are three personal distinctions in His complex nature, traditionally referred to as "three Persons in the Godhead"—God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Each is distinct from the others but never acts independently. They are one in nature and purpose. This mystery is called the doctrine of the Trinity, though that term is not used in the Bible. The teaching, however, is present in seed form in the Old Testament and is revealed explicitly in the New Testament. Note passages such as Matthew 28:19; John 10:30, 14:26; 2 Corinthians 13:14.

Our finite minds cannot understand or explain this mystery of God, which is nevertheless a fact. We must accept the truths found in the Word of God by faith even though we ourselves cannot comprehend them fully; read Hebrews 11:1,3,6 and 1 Corinthians 2:5-10;14; 13:12. It is really not surprising that the infinite God should be complex in His nature beyond the ability of finite humans to comprehend! This doctrine is absolutely essential to New Testament Christianity. Theologians have pointed out that if it were not true, the Bible would be unreliable, Christ would not be divine, and His death on the cross would not atone for our sins, being merely the death of a martyr.

Answer 4

What you are doing is why there are so many religions, you are taking certain verses in the Bible and taking your own version of what it means instead of putting it in context, When Christ ascended into heaven he gave us the holy spirit to intercede for him, so we wont be alone sorta speak, so his presence would remain. Christ said no one comes to the Father except by through me. You will not find the word trinity in the Bible, but that does not mean that it does not exist. You cannot take the Bible and try to use it to confirm your idea. It is the other way around, you need to get your ideas from the bible. And that idea is not in the bible. The bible focus' on whats important, if that was an important subject then it would have been stressed in the bible. God isn't saying "oops I forgot one thing" God tells us what we should do and how to do it and why. It is a trinity because each has a purpose, but the idea of the word is insignificant, to God's plan and purpose for all of us.

Answer 5

As the Church has never taught "the bible alone" it's no problem at all. And the teaching is there implicitly.
Jesus said even before Abraham was I AM. He's identifying himself with the divine name.
All Christians have known the Jesus is true God.
This is called the incarnation. The Almighty can take human flesh and become man from a virgin. Otherwise he would not be Almighty.
He also died on the cross and was ressurected. He can do it, He did it.

The Quran was written by a monk and was composed from psalms and hymns in the Christian Church. That's why it talks of Jesus and Mary.

Muhammad is a false prophet who oversimplyfied the Christian doctrines and mysteries to get a simple and understandable religion suited to the pagan Arab so the he could gain their military powers and have an empire in the middle-east.

Answer 6

In Jesus own words....

Matthew 28:18-19 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age."

John 8: 23-24 But He continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not from this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins."

If you really say you have an open-mind then you should have read these verses as well. With an open-mind what does it then mean to you? Or is it a fact that you have already decided that the Quran is the truth then you are not open-minded at all.

Answer 7

if you analyze, the word ‘trinity’ - it occurs, no where in the Bible. If you search the full Bible, the word ‘trinity’ doesn’t exist anywhere in the Bible - Its not there in the Bible. But the word ‘trinity’ is there in the Holy Qu’ran - The Holy Qu’ran says in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, V. No. 171, it says…(Arabic)... ‘Don’t say trinity’. (Arabic)... ‘Desist, stop it, its better for you - For God in one God’. It is again repeated in Surah Maidah, Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 73, it says…(Arabic)... ‘They blaspheme, those who say that Allah is one of three, in a ‘trinity’- For there is no God, but Allah’. The word ‘trinity’ is not mentioned in the Bible but it is there in the Qu’ran - and Qu’ran says…(Arabic)...‘Don’t say trinity’. The closest verse that you can find in the Bible, which can be taken for ‘trinity’ is the first Epistle of John, Chapter, No. 5, Verse No. 7 which says…‘For there are three which bears record in heaven - the father, the word, and the holy Ghost - and these three are one’. This verse of the Bible, 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5, Verse No. 7, is the closest resemblance to ‘trinity’ in the full Bible. But if you read the ‘Revised Standard Version’, which has been revised by 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations - they have removed this verse from the Bible as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication.In fact if you analyze, Jesus Christ, (peace be upon him), never spoke about ‘trinity’- that father, son and Holy Ghost - they were one. In fact he said in the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, Verse No. 28, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of John, Chapter No. 10, Verse No. 29, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No. 12, Verse No. 28, ‘I cast out devils with the spirit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Chapter No. 11, Verse No. 20 ‘With the finger of God, I cast out devil’, Gospel of John Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 30, ‘I can of my own self do nothing - As I hear I judge and my judgement is just - Because I seek not my will but the will of the Father who has sent me’- He never spoke about ‘trinity’. In fact when he was asked that, ‘which is the first of the commandments’ - he said - its mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Chapter No. 12, Verse. No. 29…(Hebrew)… Which means, ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord’. But if you ask the Christian Church - in the Catechism, they tell you that the Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Ghost is a person - but they aren’t three persons, - they are one person’. Person, person, person, but not three persons - one person - What language is this? 1+1+1 is equal to 3, Its not equal to 1. 1 into 3 is 3…Not 1. So when we ask them that suppose, there are three triplets, identical triplets - If one of them commits murder, can you hang the other - they say… ‘No’. Then you ask them why? - Because each one has a different personality - If one of the triplets commit murder you cannot hang the other, because each one has a different personality. And when the Christian, when they think of the Father in heaven, they think like an old man like ‘Santa Clause’, sitting in the Heaven on one of the Planet with the earth as His foot stool. When they think about the son, that Jesus Christ, (peace be upon him), they think if a tall man who is fair, who has got blonde eyes like Jeffrey Hunter. You see in the movie ‘King of Kings’. He did the acting of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) - Jeffery Hunter - they have a certain mental picture. When they talk about Holy Ghost, they think of a ‘dove’ as the Bible says… ‘which came upon Jesus Christ, peace be upon him when he was baptized’ - Or they think it like a ‘spirit’ that came at the feast of Pentecost which is mentioned in the Bible. But when you ask the Christian that when you speak about trinity, how many pictures do you have in your mind - the Christian will tell you… ‘One’. Believe me he is lying to you, because 1+1+1 is three, it is not one. Hope that answer the question.

Answer 8

if you analyze, the word ‘trinity’ - it occurs, no where in the Bible. If you search the full Bible, the word ‘trinity’ doesn’t exist anywhere in the Bible - Its not there in the Bible. But the word ‘trinity’ is there in the Holy Qu’ran - The Holy Qu’ran says in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, V. No. 171, it says…(Arabic)... ‘Don’t say trinity’. (Arabic)... ‘Desist, stop it, its better for you - For God in one God’. It is again repeated in Surah Maidah, Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 73, it says…(Arabic)... ‘They blaspheme, those who say that Allah is one of three, in a ‘trinity’- For there is no God, but Allah’. The word ‘trinity’ is not mentioned in the Bible but it is there in the Qu’ran - and Qu’ran says…(Arabic)...‘Don’t say trinity’. The closest verse that you can find in the Bible, which can be taken for ‘trinity’ is the first Epistle of John, Chapter, No. 5, Verse No. 7 which says…‘For there are three which bears record in heaven - the father, the word, and the holy Ghost - and these three are one’. This verse of the Bible, 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5, Verse No. 7, is the closest resemblance to ‘trinity’ in the full Bible. But if you read the ‘Revised Standard Version’, which has been revised by 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations - they have removed this verse from the Bible as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication.In fact if you analyze, Jesus Christ, (peace be upon him), never spoke about ‘trinity’- that father, son and Holy Ghost - they were one. In fact he said in the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, Verse No. 28, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of John, Chapter No. 10, Verse No. 29, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No. 12, Verse No. 28, ‘I cast out devils with the spirit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Chapter No. 11, Verse No. 20 ‘With the finger of God, I cast out devil’, Gospel of John Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 30, ‘I can of my own self do nothing - As I hear I judge and my judgement is just - Because I seek not my will but the will of the Father who has sent me’- He never spoke about ‘trinity’. In fact when he was asked that, ‘which is the first of the commandments’ - he said - its mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Chapter No. 12, Verse. No. 29…(Hebrew)… Which means, ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord’. But if you ask the Christian Church - in the Catechism, they tell you that the Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Ghost is a person - but they aren’t three persons, - they are one person’. Person, person, person, but not three persons - one person - What language is this? 1+1+1 is equal to 3, Its not equal to 1. 1 into 3 is 3…Not 1. So when we ask them that suppose, there are three triplets, identical triplets - If one of them commits murder, can you hang the other - they say… ‘No’. Then you ask them why? - Because each one has a different personality - If one of the triplets commit murder you cannot hang the other, because each one has a different personality. And when the Christian, when they think of the Father in heaven, they think like an old man like ‘Santa Clause’, sitting in the Heaven on one of the Planet with the earth as His foot stool. When they think about the son, that Jesus Christ, (peace be upon him), they think if a tall man who is fair, who has got blonde eyes like Jeffrey Hunter. You see in the movie ‘King of Kings’. He did the acting of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) - Jeffery Hunter - they have a certain mental picture. When they talk about Holy Ghost, they think of a ‘dove’ as the Bible says… ‘which came upon Jesus Christ, peace be upon him when he was baptized’ - Or they think it like a ‘spirit’ that came at the feast of Pentecost which is mentioned in the Bible. But when you ask the Christian that when you speak about trinity, how many pictures do you have in your mind - the Christian will tell you… ‘One’. Believe me he is lying to you, because

Answer 9

From your questions it seems that you love Jesus and hope He must be a muslim. Jesus"s birth was prophecised before He was born.Three are the same . The almighty is God, His words are Jesus and the spirit in Him is the Holyspirit. I If you want to know about Father, son and the Holyspirit first read the Bible from the beginning , starting from old Testament. I am really very happy that u r interested in knowing about our God Jesus Christ.May God will help u . Do not compare Quran with Bible. Have u read Quran fully? If not first read it completely and then start reading Bible from Old Testament.

Answer 10

Another important point about the Trinity is that it can be a difficult concept to grasp. But this does not necessitate an argument against its validity. On the contrary, the fact that it is difficult is an argument for its truth. The Bible is the self revelation of an infinite God. Therefore, we are bound to encounter concepts which are difficult to understand -- especially when dealing with an incomprehensible God who exists in all places at all times. So, when we view descriptions and attributes of God manifested in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, we discover that a completely comprehensible and understandable explanation of God's essence and nature is not possible. What we have, however, done is derive from the Scripture the truths that we can grasp and combine them into the doctrine we call The Trinity. The Trinity is, to a large extent, a mystery. After all, we are dealing with God Himself.
It is the way of the cults to reduce biblical truth to make God comprehensible and understandable by their minds. To this end, they subject God's word to their own reasoning and end in error. The following verses are often used to demonstrate that in the doctrine of the Trinity is indeed biblical.
Matt. 28:18, Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
1 Cor. 12:4-6, Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6And there are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.
2 Cor. 13:14, The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
Eph. 4:4-7, There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
1 Pet. 1:2, "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in fullest measure."
Jude 20-21, "But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith; praying in the Holy Spirit; 21keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy

Answer 11

Maybe a little history will help. Jesus never said he was the Son of God. He is quoted many times as calling himself the Son of Man. He never said his mother was a virgin. He would have been laughed out of town. It seems strange to us, but in those days, people used to worship people, dead or alive. Augustus Caesar was the first emperor of Rome. He started calling himself the Son of God, to which the early Christians replied, "Jesus is the Son of God". That caused a problem because they were only supposed to have one God and now they had two. They solved that problem by developing the doctorine of the Trinity.