If the trinity is true then Jesus was praying to himself as he hung on the cross. And how could God die? So either Jesus was the Son of God, a man (notice I didn't say God the Son) or you've got to explaining to do on how you twisted your brain and understanding into some crazy knot to make sense of all that.
Why not just believe what the bible says hundreds of times that he was the son of God and not God?
2006-09-02 18:38:24 · 19 answers · asked by stybaj 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Alot of those people who answered need to actually go and try to find their answers in the bible - some of that stuff makes no sense to a common sense thinking person.
There's no place in the bible that it talks about: "jesus's own personal manifestation of God"
Today the god of this world is the devil (2 Cor 4:4) - God didn't hand over the reigns to his firstborn when adam fell (he wasn't born yet).
Where does it say there are 3 godheads? Nowhere. I'm not my father or mother - I am their son - just like Christ is his Father's son. Why would God be so logical in everything else in life and not on that topic?
Jesus had a beginning - he was born - you can read about it in the gospels. He was created - it says so in the new testament.
One person wrote: "Christ the son of God never died" How absurd - then everything is in vain in Christianity. The pivotal point in christianity is that Christ actually died and God raised him from the dead.
We've got to come back to the bible
2006-09-03 04:02:34 · update #1
Amen!
2006-09-02 18:40:46 · answer #1 · answered by Lynn K 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
He was, and is God. He claimed it, that is why He was sentenced to death by the Jewish leaders, for blasphemy.
Joh 10:30 I and the Father are One!
Joh 8:24 Therefore, I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.
Exo 3:14 And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM; and He said, You shall say this to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.
Jesus, the second part of the trinity, cried out to the Father, the first part of the trinity. Jesus, in human form, died. But, the soul and spirit never die, therefore, Christ, the Son of God, never died. And is now at the right hand of the Father. The trinity, God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, all part of the Godhead, yet separate and distinct persons.
2006-09-02 18:49:41 · answer #2 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Doesn't Jesus say "Everything I am, you can be also" or something along those lines?
Ponder that for a moment...
Now, what if Jesus was actually just a man? And a little more enlightened than most?
Take it in...
How about this:
In the "olden days" saying that someone came from a virgin birth was a way of making that person different and better than everyone else. They say that Socrates came from a virgin birth as well as Plato.
Try this one on for size...
We are all a part of god and can do everything Jesus did... this I believe...
How about...
In the days of many gods being given sacrifices, Jesus came along and said that there was one, and that he was his father in heaven, and that satan tempts him. Maybe saying, "I AM GOD" would just get him killed before he could mutter anything more. Maybe satan that he refers to is his own needs and wants. We all have those... Freud called the place where they came from, the ID. Look it up.
So, to draw a conclusion, Jesus was a man, and he was a god, and said, "everything I can do, so can you." Well... I'm hooked! Let's all be more like Jesus!
2006-09-02 18:46:46 · answer #3 · answered by jennilaine777 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
yes he is praying to God for he is not God but the son of God.
i think not all Christians believe that christ is God. they believe in Jesus and his teachings.
but its the Catholics that believe that Jesus is God.
and there was nothing written on the bible about the Holy Trinity.
and doesnt God kept emphasizing that He is the only God? He said it straightforward so why can some people still be believing in the Holy Trinity?
2006-09-02 18:48:17 · answer #4 · answered by stargazingmaniac 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You are right on one point, Jesus is the Son of God (Elohiem). But he was known before his mortal ministery as Jehovah. The God of the Old Testament.
When Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden, Elohiem gave over the reigns to his First Born, Jehovah. He is the God in whom Abraham worshipped, he is the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. He is the Same God who Moses talked to in the burning bush.
2006-09-02 19:09:35 · answer #5 · answered by princezelph 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus was not praying to Himself meaning His own personal Manifestation of God. Jesus was praying to God the Father's personal Manifestation of God. This is not hard to believe. If God can't die then He fails to be God. While God was dying His omnipotence was Manifesting by God taking the punishment for the sins of the world. God's other Manifestations were still alive which were part of God's Omnipotence.
2006-09-02 21:22:06 · answer #6 · answered by PowerfulProphet 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Jesus is the begotten Son of God. Colossians describes Jesus as the firstborn of all creation. Hence he was created so not God himself. But apostate teachings of the trinity fills christianity.
If Jesus was God then who resurrected him as he was dead.
If Jesus truely was God and he resurrected himself then Jesus was not truely dead and the basis of salvation is a hoax; a faux; conterfiet; a lie!
The point was Jesus had to die a complete death not dead but in essense still alive else the resurrection meant nothing.
Jesus died and his life no longer existed and it was God who resurrected him not Jesus ressurecting himself.
2006-09-02 18:41:09 · answer #7 · answered by Spadesboffin 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is the son of God and when Jesus was on earth he was a man. He died as a man, just as you and I will die on earth, but will be born again in heaven if we believe in God with all our heart. Please try to keep in mind that God is much more than a man and we can't totally understand how the trinity works.
2006-09-02 18:45:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
He was the Son of God and God. But He respected God the Father, and thus prayed to Him. God is Three in One, but still Three separate Beings. It's really not that hard to comprehend.
Kas
2006-09-02 18:40:56 · answer #9 · answered by scc1fan 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus said that the Father and I are ONE. He also said that no one comes to the Father except through/by/because of Him Jesus, being perfect, sinless, holy. job was to make Himself a sacrifice (atonement) for the sins of all humanity. It took perfection, holiness to to make such an atonement and Jesus was the only one that could do such a thing. He didn't have to make that sacrifice and die for His own behalf. He did it for our behalf. There are THREE God heads but ONE God. Look at it like a country having three presidents at the same time. One of the presidents is talking to or imploring one of the other presidents. Jesus as God the Son was praying/talking to God the Father. As far as being human, are you equally human to your parents? ...Yes. Are you an equal as far as being of the same family? ...Yes. As far as Jesus being on earth goes, He had a birth date=Christmas. God has always existed but as the part of Jesus EARTHLY ministry goes, it had a beginning and ending date back then.
2006-09-02 19:00:16 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
What human beings many times don't comprehend, is that God left heaven for a time to become Christ contained in the flesh. human beings have been so evil that he had to deliver himself right down to die for his or her sins, otherwise they could be those to pay the penalty after their loss of existence. So definite, God grew to become Christ and took it upon himself to die for our sins, so as that if we extensive-unfold him as our savior, we would be saved and stay with him in heaven as quickly as we die. What greater appropriate thank you to narrate to his human beings than to become on himself??? this way he ought to journey some issues which we human mortals could manage. He felt all of our emotions and then some. Jesus is the 2nd guy or woman interior the trinity of God. So definite, he's God himself. definite. God is love, yet he's like each and every determine, if we slip up, then he will divulge his wrath an punishment so as that we would be closer to him.
2016-09-30 07:16:32 · answer #11 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋