Everyone going to heaven?What do you think?

Question

Christian Universalism teaches that all the Bible is given by
inspiration of God. (2 Tim. 3:16) That Jesus Christ is the savior of
all mankind through His suffering, death, and resurrection, which was
the greatest show of selfless love that ever was, that is now, and
ever will be.

Many Christian theologians believe that you can only be saved (Go to
heaven) if you accept Christ in this life. All people born from
Adam(until Christ comes) that haven't accepted Him, will be cast into
the lake of Fire. They will burn in torment forever with the Devil and
His Angels.


The New Testament didn't start until Christ died and was
resurrected.(Heb. 9:16,17) He was born under the law, (Gal. 4:4) and
preached the Gospel to the Jews. (Mt. 15:24) The Jews have rejected
the Lord and His words to this day.

These are some of the complaints that the Lord had against them
through 33 books of the Old Testament: They worshiped Bal, Asterof,
Golden Calves, and Moses's Serpent. They were stiff-- necked,
swearing, killing, stealing, adulators, whoring, rebellious, wicked,
abominable, defiling His sanctuaries, lewd, fornicators, bestiality,
profaned the Lord's name, defiled themselves, despised the Lord's Holy
Things, profaned His Sabbaths, extortionists, incestuous, filthiness,
robbed the poor, despised the Lord's judgments, polluted the Lord's
Sabbaths and His name, blasphemed the Lord, passed their sons through
the fire, corrupted, covetous, backsliders, neighing after their
neighbor's wife,violated His laws, impudent, hard hearted, full of
violence, divination, soothsaying, unfaithful, degenerate, haughty,
killed the prophets. In Ezekiel alone their abominations are mentioned
40 times.


Preachers say that rejection of Christ is a ticket to Hell. The Lord's
chosen people have rejected Him to this day, yet all Israel will be
saved. (Rom. 11:26) (Heb. 8:8,13) The Lord has concluded all Israel in
unbelief, that He might have mercy on all. (Rom. 11:32)


Their unbelief does not make the faith of the Lord with out effect.
(Rom3:3,4) There is no difference between Jews and Gentiles. (Rom.
l0:12) ( Job. 22:5-9)

The Lord only taught the Jews with parables, (Mk 13:34) (Mk
15:24)which are fictitious stories with a moral. (Strong's
Concordance) The stories about separating the sheep from the goats,
(Mt 25:35) and Lazarus and the richman. (Lk 16:20-31) The only sin the
people in these parables committed was knowing to do good, and not
doing it. (Jas 4:17) Christ was making a point that all sin, no matter
what, is worthy of everlasting fire, even neglecting the poor, as they
did. Then there is the parable of entering the strait gate, and not
the wide one that leads to destruction. (Mt 7:13,14)


Of course the sins of drugs, alcoholism, sexual immorality, and
criminal activity will lead to an early death in this life. Christ
told the Jews that their blasphemy against The Holy Spirit would never
be forgiven, and in danger, or subject to eternal damnation (Mk 3:29)
First of all, in danger, or subject to, didn't happen, it was a
threat. Secondly Christ hadn't died for all sins yet. Having forgiven
us all trespasses, wiping out the handwriting of requirements that was
against us, and contrary to us. He took it out of the way, being
nailed to the cross. (Col 2:14) If all the parables that Christ taught
are still in effect today, then do as Christ commanded, cut off your
hand, your foot, and, pluck out your eye if you lust in your mind.

(Mt. 5:28,29,30)


The Bible says sin is breaking the commandments. (1 Jn 3:4) If you
break one point of the law, you are guilty of all ten. (Jas 2:10) Sin
is wickedness and evil, you can't have one without the other. Whoever
says he has no sin is a liar.

(1 Jn 5:19)


The Lord saw that the wickedness, and evil thoughts of mankind were
continuous.(Gen 6:5)

All through the Bible we are told that we are sinners, evil, and
wicked. So are we solely and completely responsiblefor our sinful,
evil, wicked thoughts, and actions?


Whoever sins is of the devil. (1 Jn 3:8) he oppresses people, (Acts
10:38) the devil is seeking whom he may devour,

(1 Pt 5:8) he deceives us, (Rev 20:10) he snares us, (1 Tim 3:7) he
takes uscaptive at his will, (2 Tim 2:26) he beguiles us, (Gen 3:13)
he tempts us, (1Cor 7:5) he takes advantage of us,(2 Cor. 2:11) he
transforms himself into an angel of light, (2 Cor 11:14) hehinders us,
(1 Th 2:18) he has all power and signs, and lying wonders, (2
Thes.2:9) he is the god of this world, (2 Cor 2:4) he is the prince of
the power of the air,

(Eph 2:2) he blinds the eyes of unbelievers.


(Cor 4:4) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers,against the rulers of darkness of this
world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph 6:12) With
the power and deception the devil has over us, we are not on our own
when it comes to sin. He is the instigator, deceiver,and author of
lies; but the Lord remembers that we are but dust. (Psm 103:13)



Paul the chief apostle said these statements for everyone, from Adam
to the present. "What I want to do, (Good) that I don't. What I don't
want to, (Bad) I do, but it's not me but the sin, wickedness, and evil
that dwells in me.


When will I be delivered from this body of death?" (Rom 7: 15,24) The
flesh, and it's appetites lusts against our spirit, and our spirit
against the flesh. These are contrary to one another so that you don't
do the things that you wish. (Gal 5:17) The spirit is willing but the
flesh is weak. (Mk 26:41)


Our spirit that resides in our body is really us, and our sinful flesh
is only a temporary vehicle, (Ps 144:4) while we wait for the
resurrection. Our spirit is holy, and we will be like the Angels. (Mk
12:25)


Everyone is responsible for their own sins, but Satan has his part in
them by deceiving us with the thoughts, and ideas, and we act on them
whether in ignorance or rebelliousness.


The Lord chastens us for our sins in this life and forgives us through
His suffering death, and resurrection for the next life. Satan pays
for his part in the lake of fire.


In Revelation, satan. the beast, the false prophet, those not in the
book of life, and those with the mark of the beast, will be cast into
the lake of fire. The armies of Gog and Magog will be killed I
destroyed, and they will confess Jesus Christ is Lord in the resurrection.


The cowardly, whoremongers, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars will
be cast into the lake of fire. This last group committed much less sin
than Israel, but all Israel will be saved. Just who are these people?


Going back to the Gospels, when Christ's boat landed at Gadarenes, and
a man that was possessed with demons met Him. (Mk 5:1-5) Christ cast
out the demons without the man repenting, or accepting Him. This same
thing happened with other possessed people Christ healed. This man's
spirit wasn't evil, but evil dwelled in him through the demons.


He was in his right mind after Christ cast them out. (Mk 5:15) As the
apostle Paul said "It's not me but the evil within me." (Rom 7:17) The
analogy to this event would be, if the possessed man took the mark of
beast and worshiped it. Who would be guilty, he, or the demons?


The same is for all demon possessed sinners who will be released from
this body of death, and saved through the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus
Christ. All the afore mentioned people will die as their demons are
cast into the lake of fire, and their spirit will return to God who
gave it, (Ecc 12:7)


He who has died is freed from sin. (Rom. 6:7) The people in the last
days, are no worse sinners that died in the flood, or Israel / Judah
with all their abominations, as the Lord said "Every knee shall bow,
and every tongue confess to God"


The Lord was showing the severity of sin, and Satan's end for causing
it. The Lord will not always strive with mankind, for we are flesh.
(Gen 6:3) The end time scenario shows that Satan, with all his powers,
has no control over mankind after death, and Satan loses.

Let the reader contemplate on the Lord's motives in these following
scriptures.


(1 Tim 2:4) The Lord will desire all mankind to be saved, and come to
the knowledge of the truth.

(Job 23:13) Whatever the Lord desires, that He does.

(1 Tim 4:10) The Lord is the savior of all Mankind, especially those
who believe.

(1 Jn 2:2) The Lord is not only the propitiation for our sins but for
the whole world.

(Mt 18:11) The Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.

(1 Jn 4:14) Our Heavenly Father sent Christ to be the savior of the world.

(Psl 15:3) Our God is in heaven, and He does whatever He pleases.

(Jn 1:29) Christ takes away the sins of the world.

(Heb 10:10) We are sanctified through the body of Christ, once for all.

(Col 1:20) Christ made peace through the blood of His cross, and
reconciled all things in heaven, and earth.

(Gal 1:4) Christ gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us
from this present evil age, according to the will of our God, and Father.

(Mt 6:10) Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.

(Ps 135:6) Whatever the Lord pleases, He does in heaven, and on earth.

(Jn 1:29) Christ the lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.

(1 Tim 1:15) This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptance,
that Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners.

(Lk 19:10) The Son Of Man came to seek, and to save that which was lost.

(Job 42:2) The Lord can do everything, and no purpose can beheld from Him.

(Jer 32:27) There is nothing too hard for the Lord:

(Mt 19:25) The disciples asked, "Who can be saved?"

(Mt 19:26) Christ answered, "With God all things are possible."


Most of the following scriptures will be accomplished at the white
throne judgement. Note that the Bible never says that you are forced
to bow the knee, and judgement doesn't mean lake of fire.

(Rom. 14:11) The Lord said "Every knee shall bow to me,and every
tongue shall confess to God.

(Phil 2:10,11) At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow of heaven
,and earth, and under the earth, and every tongue shall confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord.

(Rom 10:9) If you confess to Christ, and believe God raised Him
fromthe dead, you will be saved.

(I Jn 4:15) Whosoever confesses Jesus is the son of God, God dwells in
him, and he in God.

(Rom 10:13) Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord, will besaved.

Note.. .The word ever denotes time. It means eternal, without
ending.(Strongs)

(Rev 7:1) The Lord comes on clouds, and every eye shall see Him.

(Jn 6:40) Everyone that sees the Son of God, and believes in Him,
shall have everlasting life, and He will raise him up on the last day.

(Ps 52:10) All the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

(Lk 3:6) All flesh shall see the salvation of our God..

(Isa 40:5) The glory ofthe lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall
see it together.

(Jn 12:32) Christ will draw all mankind to Himself.

(Ps 86:9) All nations shall worship the Lord.

(Dan 7:14 ) All peoples, nations, and languages will serve the Lord.

(Isa 26:9) The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

(Isa 61:11) The Lord will cause righteousness and praise to spring
forth before all nations.

(1 Thess 3:13 ) The Lord will establish our hearts, blameless at His
coming.

(Ps 66:3,4) The Lord's enemies will submit to Him, and ALL THE EARTH
shall worship Him.

(Ps 65:2,3 ) All flesh will come to the Lord. He has provided
atonement for them.


(2 Cor 6:2) Today is the day of salvation. Note...Every day is today.
It's not yesterday, and it's not tomorrow. At the white throne
judgement it will be today.


The reader may have their favorite scriptures that seems to nullify
some of the preceding ones, and put their spin on a few. Some might
say they were taken out of context, and maybe some were.

The preponderance of scriptures is overwhelming, to prove that the
Lord wants all His offspring to be in His Kingdom, and that His love
never fails. God is love. (1 Jn 4:8) He formed and fashioned us in our
mothers whom. (Job 31:15) He created mankind in His own image after
His likeness. (Gen 1:26) He numbers the hairs of our head. (Lk 12:7)
We are His offspring. (Acts 17:28) The Lord has great love for us.
(Eph 2:4) Nothing can separate us from the love of God. (Rom. 8:3)
Here in is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent
His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (1 Jn 4:10)


The main reason this document was written is to defend our Heavenly
Father's and our Lord Jesus Christ's love and mercy that never fails.


It seems that theologians, by their teaching, believe there is a great
contest between the Lord and the devil. The one who gets the most
people in the end, wins. If Christ doesn't save all the sinners He
died for, He has lost the contest, and Satan wins. NO WAY! The Lord
can do everything, and no purpose of His can be withheld From Him.
(Job 42:2)


Why do we witness to people, and send out missionaries, if all will be
saved anyway? Because the Lord said "Go and preach the Kingdom of
God."(Lk9:60) The Lord wanted laborers for Christ. (Mt 9:37,38) Many
are called, but few are chosen.

( Mt 20:6) Some are predestined, as the apostles, Abraham, Moses, and
the prophets were for the Lord's government in the Kingdom. (Eph1:11)


Some will say "If all mankind will be saved, as the Bible says (1 Tim
3:4) ; then I can have my fun, with drugs, immoral sex, and what ever
pleases me. The Lord came down hard on Israel, with plagues and wars
against them.

Tens of thousands were killed by the Angel of the Lord for their sins.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (
Heb10:31) in this life.


All through the Bible there are scriptures that seem to be
prerequisites for getting into heaven. Such as keep the commandments,
be righteous, repent, be blameless, overcome, endure to the end, be
perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect,( Mt 5:48) be holy, and
without blame,


(Eph 1:4) Christ will establish our hearts blamelessin holiness before
our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His
saints (1 Thess 3:13 ) This last scripture says it all. When Christ
comes back all these things will be established in our resurrected
spirit bodies. This can't be accomplished in our sinful state.


People believe that once an edict is given by God it can't be
changed."I am the Lord, I change not" (Mal 3:6) The Lord's love never
fails His mercy endures for ever. God doesn't change, but He makes
changes. The two greatest reversals for the Lords edict for mankind,
was" I will destroy Mankind whom

I have created from the face of the earth, both man, and beast,
creeping things, and birds of the air, because of the wickedness of
man, and I am sorry that I have made them." (Gen 6:7) Noah found grace
in the eyes of the Lord, and the Lord spared a remnant. If He hadn't
you would not be here.


The Lord said to Moses "Let me alone, that I may destroy Israel
/Judah, and blot out their name from under heaven, and make a mightier
and greater nation than they."(Deut 9:14) Moses begged the Lord not
to, and by the grace of God, He relented, and Israel is still a nation
today.


Is it such a stretch of the imagination, that God who made such an
awesome reversal from destroying all life, and the Nation of Israel
from the face of the earth would want to save all His offspring that
He loves?


Especially when Christ from the cross said. "Forgive them Father, for
they know not what they do." Is there anything worse in the history of
mankind, than torturing and killing our Heavenly Father's Son; the
co-creator of the universe? For this He forgave all mankind, for they
know not what they do.

(Lk 23:34) The Lord remembers that we are dust.(Ps 103:14)

Dear reader if you still believe that your unsaved loved ones will go
into the lake of fire to be tormented forever, because you think
Christ can't possibly fulfill His mission to save all mankind,
believing that, you should spend night and day in prayer and fasting
for them, (Lk 2:37)(Acts 20:3 1) and with tears, and supplications! (2
Ch 6:39)


Many preachers embellish the scriptures, and tell little stories as
analogies, so may this writer take licence on a seemingly logical
explanation of why mankind was given this lengthy time period on earth
to be deceived, and harassed by the devil, and his angels?


If the Lord had cast the devil, and his angels into a prepared lake of
fire at the time he rebelled and left Adam, and Eve sinless as they
were in the garden of Eden to propagate the world ; then some time in
the future as mankind advanced in knowledge and power without Satan
hindering us, we probably would have rebelled against God, being
ignorant of sin, and it's consequences.


Like Lucifer we would not have had Christ as a savior, and our sins
would have been on our own heads. The Lord had to have an example for
mankind so awesome, and terrible, that we would remember through all
eternity. Mankind has been immersed in satanic sin and chaos without
end, and has had our nose rubbed in it to show us once and for all
what sin and it's consequences are.


The redeeming factor is, while we take part in the horrendous sin that
Satan deceives us with, we have a Savior Jesus Christ. This example
for all eternity is to show us what did happen when as a spirit being,
there is, no second chance in the kingdom, as the devil and his angels
have found out.

If you have read this complete document, and still believe the Lord
would cast even one of His offspring that He loves into hell, then you
don't believe the God of the Bible; for He is Love and His love never
fails.


The Bottom Line. Every knee shall bow to the Lord, and every tongue
shall confess to God. (Rom 14:11) For God so loved the world, that He
gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not
perish. but have everlasting life. (Jn 3:16) If you confess to God,
you believe in Him.

(Some scriptures are paraphrased, it's recommended you look each one up)

Answer 1

i do understand that the bible does talk a lot about god wanting to save the world, but it also does talk a lot about hell, damnation, and how the opponents of god will be smighted.
the message i get from the bible as a whole, therefore, is that there are two gods(a jealous and a loving one), and one god, accoding to the scriptures taken literally. This obviously contradicts and so i think the bible is a fallacy.
this is one reason why i do not believe.
if you would like to debate further feel free to email me

(by the way how did you manage to get all that inside 1000 characters???????????)

Answer 2

Christian Universalism is sadly mistaken. This is not logical; it makes absolutely no sense. Why have we been commanded to take the gospel to all creatures if they don't even need to hear it?

John 3:15 That ***whosoever believeth in him*** should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that ***whosoever believeth in him*** should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Answer 3

i'm no longer completely specific approximately Jews, yet because of the fact that Buddha, Al-lah and different gods will by no ability be in Heaven, why might Buddhists, Muslims and believers in different gods decide to bypass there to spend eternity interior the presence of God? all human beings is given adequate risk to settle for Jesus as Lord and Savior of their lives or to reject Him and His actuality. in the event that they reject this, of their very own loose will, they are going to be endlessly separated from God, in basic terms as they chosen!

Answer 4

hmm... wow... I did not see one question mark in there. Thus... no question... I believe in a synthetic form of God, but people like you make me sick. Having to spread the "holy word" anywhere and everywhere you go. When you get coffee do you enlighten the Starbucks barrister with your holy crap? LET PEOPLE BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN AND **** THEM IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE YOUR WAY! Jesus Christ man...

Answer 5

Here's my paraphrase: get an editor. This diatribe made the Jehovah's Witnesses who just dropped in nod off..............

Answer 6

I doubt if anyone will read your entire post. I didn't -- it's too long and non compelling.

Answer 7

Ummm....I forgot the question.

Answer 8

For God's sake....for your sake.....hell, for MY sake.....read another book already.

Answer 9

and your point is?

Answer 10

well......amen