If , as the Armianists teach, he wanted to save everyone and everyone is not saved, then Jesus failed to do what he wanted correct? The Calvinists teach He wanted to save those for whom he died and everyone for whom he died will be saved and none of those he died for will be lost.
2006-09-02 14:43:27 · 34 answers · asked by nobodiesinc 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
But avoid foolish controversies, arguments about genealogies, quarrels, and fights about the law. These things are useless and worthless. Have nothing to do with a person who causes divisions after you have warned him once or twice. For you know that a person like this is corrupt and keeps on sinning, being self-condemned." (Titus 3:9-11)
"Remind others about these things, and warn them in the sight of God not to argue over words. Arguing does not do any good but only destroys those who are listening." (II Timothy 2:14)
2006-09-02 14:49:52 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No. For several reasons.
(1) He came to complete prophecy and He did that on the cross.
(2) He also came to start a new creation. That too was initiated at Calvary. While people are busy investigating, supporting or denying any creation; He has started yet another creation, which will replace this one
(3) His work to reconcile men to God was made possible by the pardon His blood assured on Calvary.
NOTE: If I offer you free tickets to a concert, you still must take and present the tickets. Your lack of action is not my failure but yours.
As for Calvinism and the Arminian doctrines; both are misunderstandings of faith, election and predestination, or more simply grace versus justice. I have one book on the subject which is 197 years old. There is a simple answer, but I am going to bed. Bye.
PS The spelling Arminian is correct; for the Dutchman Jacobus Arminius. This is not to be confused as an idea that came out of Armenia.
2006-09-02 17:10:47 · answer #2 · answered by Tommy 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God had sent Jesus to this world with a purpose. Bible says He had come to take away the sins of the world. Many do not know what it means. He took away from us the tendency to commit sin. When we look around we say the world is full of sinners and then think may be Jesus had failed in His purpose. But it is not so. Why there is more coal and less diamond? When you clean up the house, more unclean is the house greater rubbish shall come out of it. Marvel not at the rubbish but marvel how clean the house is. Like wise do not count sinners but see how many good people there are. You will find there are greater kindness, greater love, greater sympathy and greater peace. True there is terrorism, but it is there so that they may destroy themselves.
2006-09-02 15:03:42 · answer #3 · answered by jade60 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, Jesus failed in his mission on the cross.
He saved no one and was unable to even save himself. Jehovah forsook Jesus and Jesus even admitted as much while he was hanging in the tree. At Least Paul and Peter says Jesus was hung in a tree. When this is pointed out to
religious folks they act as if they have not heard
you and say stuff like "it's all wood so what".
Failure is failure no matter who does it.
Therefore he is said to be returning to try again, what a waste.
2006-09-02 15:19:13 · answer #4 · answered by zurioluchi 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When Jesus died on the cross saying it was finished, it was indeed. After that, Jesus blood is available for all who call on his name. (Acts 22:16) Jesus accomplished exactly what the Father wanted him to accomplish; be sacrificed to fullfill the prophecies and offer salvation to all. Jesus died for all but not all are going to accept him.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
2006-09-02 14:51:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'd suggest Jesus would have liked to have lived a little longer...further investigation of the bible teachings by theologians appears to support this by indicating Jesus may have suffered some indecisiveness...if this is the case, then Jesus did fail as he died!
2006-09-02 14:48:01 · answer #6 · answered by cowgirl blues 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus did everything that was planned from his death on the cross. It was planned from the creation of the earth.
God knew that man would sin when he created him and therefore there was a consultation between him and his son and his son Jesus volunteered to die on the cross. God also knows that not everyone will accept that Jesus died for them, although that is not what was intended, he knows exactly who will accept and who will not. Hell was not created for man but for the devil and his angels, however, some men will be going there because they fail to see what Jesus did for them.
2006-09-02 14:53:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anthony E 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think he failed. His life and death on the cross and subseqent raising from the dead have given new hope and new life to all believers, especially believers. Here is a God that comes into the living realm, sacrifices Himself to show and prove the level of Love He holds for all existence. The very cells in my body know this. Neither life nor death ... will be able to separate us from the love of God through Jesus. The message I hear is Follow me. Jesus wants access to the heart of man/woman, to shine light into the dark places of our hearts to transform our lives from the inside.
2006-09-02 14:56:10 · answer #8 · answered by Batchlor of the Arts 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He did what He come to do. He died for the sins of the world. If you believe and trust in that then He died for you. He was buried and took your sins away and He rose again the third day for your justification. 1 Corinthians 15: 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15: 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
2006-09-02 14:51:02 · answer #9 · answered by Ray W 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He did the will of He that sent him. He looked for another way in the garden of Gethsemane. Father let this cup pass form me but not as I will but as you will. God chose the method of Christs death long before his birth in Bethlehem. He did nothing of his own will because he was of one substance with the father. The will of God was more important to him then what he wanted... Christ died for God a pure unblemished sacrifice so that the world might be saved through him. We benefit by what Christ allowed himself to go through. The plan was completed to the glory of God and nothing can change that. It was all predicted throughout the old testament.
2006-09-02 14:55:37 · answer #10 · answered by Bimpster 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋