Yet another Jesus question?

Question

I aksed another jesus/god question here
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060902045528AAoZMsO
and I got contadicting answers So Ill ask another question.

Is Jesus god?
Is he a god?
Is he the number one god?

Becuase Im pretty sure I have heard the phrase "son of god" and that god sent his son to die for sins of mankind used many many times. And yet ive heard statements making this phrase make no sense. Ones saying Jesus is god (look at my link). Which would also cunfuzzle the secular god/only one god allowed bussiness.

Please no bible links

Like in this question and the I asked before Im getting two different answers.

Answer 1

Around the start of the fourth century AD, The Roman Empire was governed by the Emperor Constantine. The Empire at this time was not in the best of health, being a morass of different cults and belief systems. The official state religion was the worship of Sol Invictus, the Sun God, and this was Constantine's own religion. However, the relatively new cult of Christianity was starting to enjoy a groundswell of support, and it did not require a crystal ball to see that steps needed to be took if Rome's tenuous grip on the Empire was to be strengthened.

Constantine called together a meeting of religious and secular leaders at Nicea in 325AD to resolve the situation, and it is principally as a result of this meeting that he earned the title of Constantine the Great, bestowed upon him subsequently by Church leaders. It was at this meeting that Constantine and his cronies resolved that if the proletariat had to have their superstitions, then better it was controlled by the state and adopted policies that the state approved of. It is this meeting that the world has come to know as the Council of Nicea, and the world still shudders from its repercussions today.

As the cult of Christianity was the one on the rise, it was felt best to tack new policies on the end of this religion - this was the one that clearly stood the best chance of success. One of the principal tasks was to decide which books should constitute the holy book of the new religion, which would be the Bible. Therefore, some of the current Gospels had to go, and some of the material in the remaining Gospels had to be edited. So, for example, the Gospel of Philip, which had been perfectly creditable until this point, was cut from the Bible. Upon closer inspection however, the reason for Philip's edit became clear when a copy was discovered. It contains passages in which some of the disciples complain about how Jesus appears to favour Mary Magdelene over all the other apostles, and they are annoyed because he is always kissing her on the mouth. Jesus replies that he does favour her, and is coy about answering directly, and enigmatically says, "great are the mysteries of marriage"!

The Council of Nicea decides that with a little selective editing, they could create a nice little irrefutable line of succession based on a supposed quote by Jesus about Peter, namely, "this is the rock upon which my church is built". If you then make Peter the first Pope, and each successor is nominated by the outgoing Pope, then you have a mandate from Jesus, which can then be construed as being more irrefutable and undeniable than even lines of monarchistic descent. Because of this agenda, over fifty books with about an equal claim are written off at a stroke. Anything that's in, is really in; hence the term " Gospel truth' ; and anything that's out is written off as heretical. Yet the origins of the word heresy lie with the word for choice!

Now, if Jesus is indeed married - and a reluctance to get married and procreate is seen by Jews as a statement of not wishing to continue the line of God's chosen people, and is worthy of a stern rebuke from church elders, then as today - and has children, the line of Peter is irrelevant as the blood of the Royal line is more important than the word. So the Gospel of Philip ends up on the cutting room floor, along with any other document or passage that contains references to Jesus' marriage. However, this is a subject that deserves - and will get - a guide entry of its own. I merely use this as an example of why such selective editing processes were used.

Evidence that the church was doing this editing exists. A copy of a letter exists from a second century church father, Clement of Alexandria, to a correspondent known only as Theodore. Theodore has written to Father Clement for advice on how to deal with a cult known as the Carpocratians, who appear to hold heretical views gained from what they call the Secret Gospel of Mark. Unfortunately for the gullible Theodore who has clearly been raised to believe dogma, Father Clement admits that this secret gospel exists ; not as a standalone document, but as a copy of the Gospel before the Church got their cut and paste functions around it. Father Clement admits to its existence but advises him to lie and deny any knowledge of it. Clement describes some of the missing passages to him.

The first of these relates to the raising of Lazarus, and in particular the events shortly thereafter. Six days after the raising of Lazarus, it is said that a youth comes to Jesus, wearing just a loincloth, and he stays with Jesus all night, during which time he learns the mysteries of the Kingdom of God. So far from raising one of the dead, it would appear that the raising of Lazarus was merely a symbolic act, indicating that Lazarus has been initiated into a higher rank by Jesus.

Secondly, Mark 11:46 tells how Jesus arrives at Jericho, but by the end of the sentence we are already learning of events concerned with his leaving Jericho. Now there can be only one reason for this; something was cut out. Father Clement confirms that this is indeed the case. The passage cut out reads, "And the sister of the youth whom Jesus loved and his mother and Salome were there, and Jesus did not receive them". The phrase "the youth whom Jesus loved" appears elsewhere in the Bible and refers to Lazarus. It has been put forward elsewhere that Lazarus and Mary Magdelene are brother and sister, and the evidence for this is fairly well documented. The passage itself, at face value, appears to say nothing controversial, but once again it's what's not there that makes it important. The mere act of cutting it means that the church is aware of a situation involving Jesus and Mary Magdelene, and is trying to hide it. Cutting it out has only drawn more attention to it.

So, how to make the name of Jesus all-powerful, and put the church in a position where kings bow to it? After all, what's the point of having this organisation which is capable of ruling the western world through fear and without having to get involved in any messy politics, and then just being content with passing round a collection plate a couple of times a week? The obvious idea is to add some mystique to Jesus, give him an aura of mystery and the supernatural, and to do this the council went back into history for inspiration. Let's consider a few historical figures for a moment;
Gautama Buddha: Born of the virgin Maya around 600BC.
Dionysus: Greek God, born of a virgin in a stable, turned water into wine.
Quirrnus: An early Roman saviour, born of a virgin.
Attis: Born of the virgin Nama in Phyrgia around 200BC.
Indra: Born of a virgin in Tibet around 700BC.
Adonis: Babylonian God, born of the virgin Ishtar
Krishna: Hindu deity, born of the virgin Devaki around 1200BC.
Zoroaster: Born of a virgin sometime between 1500BC and 1200BC.
Mithra: Born of a virgin on December 25 around 600BC.

The popular Cult of Mithra (or Mithras) was indeed an embarrassment to the early church. Its roots are probably in Syria and it is believed to be an offshoot of the Persian cult of Zoroaster. It seems to have been introduced into the Roman Empire around 67BC. Born in a stable to a virgin, birthday celebrated on December 25th, died and reborn, Passover celebrated around Easter, whose rites of worship involved the ingestion of food and drink that were symbolic of eating the flesh of Mithra, and all this 600 years before the birth of Christ. Also included were rites of baptism, the belief in immortality, resurrection, a judgement at the end between Heaven and Hell, and a saviour who died and was resurrected to act as a mediator between man and God.

Ignoring the fact that wholesome young girls had apparently been giving birth to saviours and deities for a number of centuries, it appeared that it would be extremely difficult for the church to pass off Mithra lightly. But these were desperate men, and ultimately the church concocted a story about how the devil was such a wily adversary he had gone back in time to 'plant' Mithra as an obvious forerunner of Jesus, which was intended to sow seeds of doubt into the minds of the dubious.

And thus the concept of the Holy Trinity was born. The one god now split into three, and the figurehead who always claimed he was the son of man was now proclaimed as the Son of God! And the mysterious Holy Ghost, who still baffles experts to this day, appeared more or less out of nowhere. So now when Jesus says of Peter, "This is the rock upon which my church is built", he is not just a rebellious political leader, he is the Son of God!

Other aspects of Jesus were modified to make him more acceptable to those who still worshipped the official state religion of Sun God Worship. Two dates have been put forward for Jesus' true birthday, one in early March and one early in September. It is possible that he had both a personal birthday, the actual anniversary of his birth, and a state birthday - much like the Queen of England. But this celebration was moved to December 25 because this is the date of the major feast of Sol Invictus.

This is not everything decreed by the Council, merely an illustration of the way the Church has distorted history. After all, it has been said that if you control history, then you control the future.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A307487

Answer 2

Son of God is a messianic title referring to God. In the opening of the Gospel of John, John writes "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God". John 10:30, Jesus speaking: "I and My Father are one". In Genesis it says that God created the Heavens and the Earth; in Colossians it says the Jesus did, showing that Jesus is God. The Bible says that only God can forgive sins, but all throughout His ministry, Jesus forgave sin. Jesus is God.

Answer 3

Jesus is not God.
Colossians 1:15 refers to Jesus as being made, created.
The almighty God is from everlasting to everlasting.
Is Jesus a god. Yes.
1 Corinthians 8:5 says there are many gods.
Satan is referred to as a god.
It basically means 'chief' or 'head one'.
There is, however, only one Number 1 God.
He is not a trinity.

Answer 4

The one true God is a spirit that covers all time and space! HE created a kingdom of physical light beings, these were the children or the souls, angels, you and me! And then satan caused a bunch of stuff and God crushed him and started our world with Adam and eve in the Garden and that's were our bible starts, now God came as a man Jesus and told us of the kingdom to come,John 3.16 and all of john to the end of the book, and he was resurrected and God place all authority in Jesus name and told us to lift it up in the earth and he would draw all men unto him, that's why we preach Jesus! So Jesus Gets you to the throne room with God the father and you get your prayers answered there! Demons will flee if you use the name of Jesus and people will get well if you pray that name! ITS power ,,,,try it

Answer 5

Jesus is God. Jesus said "before Abraham I was" It was Jesus talking to Abraham, Moses and all the other OT people.

Answer 6

THERE IS NO GOD .for christ sakes lets get real.jesus died because he was weak and couldnt fight he was a pothead carpenter .he never came back to life and never will so give up on that.i look like jesus and people look at me like im the devil so they can drop dead and i WILL see them in hell .satan is not real if he was there would be a son of satan too(opposite of jesus.so where is he??well thats me im the son of satan and i rule my world so kneel before me all you christians and repent for the molestations and sodomy youve laid upon the children .ive got a specia; place for you

Answer 7

Jesus is GOd, He is not number one, the Trinty (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) is one not 3 entities. i remember someone descride it as like a shamrock leaf or a maple leaf, 3 prongs but it still 1 leaf.

Answer 8

Lemme tell u one thing. If Jesus is son of god, then we are sons and daughters of God too. Nothin different.

Answer 9

Let me make it as simple as I can. A man, any man, can be both a father or a son or an uncle or a nephew, etc. We're talking about one man having all those names. It's the same with GOD. One GOD, three names. Get it?

Answer 10

Its the beleif in God what matters and not the form in which we worship is a matter. So let it be Jesus, Allah or Shiva, let us do some good things and not fight in the name of God and Relegion

Answer 11

I'm surprised you've only gotten two different answers. When dealing with mythology and fantasy, you'll get all kinds of answers and stories. That's because it's not based in reality or fact. You want reality? Stick to science.
You want nonsensical ramblings? Stick to religion.