No matter how many bad deeds one commits in this world, there is a limit. Yet, hell’s punishment is infinitely greater. It’s eternal. Shouldn’t a sinner suffer until remorse is felt and the crime is atoned for? What “justice” is there in infinite damnation?
2006-09-01 19:29:59 · 22 answers · asked by Mr. Mojo Risin 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
What Justice?
lol
God forbade Adam and Eve to eat an apple, they did and apparently we all have to pay for it! How is that fair?
And talk about overreaction! It was a stupid apple! Bad parenting right there, he should have known that the more you tell you're children something is "forbidden", it's like pushing them to do it.
Second, Jesus came back, and "died for our sins"....mmm... last time I checked, that still doesn't help coz we're going to Hell either way if we sin so what was the pointin the first place?
SO I ask you, where's the Justice?
2006-09-01 19:39:21 · answer #1 · answered by Jmyooooh 4 · 1⤊ 3⤋
You are absolutely right... justice requires that the punishment fit the crime... however you are looking at the wrong crime when attempting to understand the reason for the punishment:
Whether a person is a liar or a murderer isn't really at issue...
If Crime is a violation of the law... then let's understand what law carries with it this stiff sentence:
The Bible says" All have sinned and come short of the glory of God"... " as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin... and so death passed upon all men, for all have sinned.... The wages of sin is death"
In reconciling hell as a punishment, it is imperative to understand that what individual acts you do is not the crime that is being punished... but rather, it's the fact that we sin...
Sin is violation of God's law... separation from God... and so the punishment for willinginly keeping yourself separated from God, who is eternal, must be an eternal punishment.
The problem with punishment until the crime is atoned for comes in with people's individual attitudes... The fact that God has provided a way to avoid the punishment and people reject it implies that they don't want to avoid it.
If you're sitting in a burning building, and a rescuer shows up and offers you an opportunity to escape... say, out the Northeast window and down a ladder... but you don't like ladders and you just hate going to the northeast side of the building... so you actively choose to sit there in the burning building... whose fault is it if you burn up? yours or the person who offered you a way out???
2006-09-02 02:45:10 · answer #2 · answered by Rev T L Clark 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You began with one question and ended up asking questions that cannot possibly be answered in this forum.
No; for justice to exist punishment does not have to fit the crime.
Punishment rarely fits the crime There are plenty of folks rotting in jail for rather insignificant crimes while there are many TRUE criminals (think white collar) who are walking around freely and plotting new crimes.
In this country, America, 'justice' is based on a pocket book.
In other words, if one has a lot of money 'justice' will be 'deferred' and if one has no money 'justice' will fall on your head like a ton of bricks.
True justice lies in the hands of God.
Just how does one 'atone' for crime?
2006-09-02 02:45:02 · answer #3 · answered by Temple 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'll tell you what justice there is. The son of God died naked on a cross to bear the sins of the world, He gave us His word to live by, in which there are several warnings of the consequences of our actions, and yet people in their ignorance still choose to turn away from Him. Jesus spent his whole life being ridictuled, he suffered a painful death preceeded by several onslaughts of torture, both physical and psychological. Even as He was stretched out on the cross and dying, He loved us so much that He asked God to forgive us because He knew we couldn't possibly fully comprehend in full what it was that we were doing. The catch is that we can't just half-heartedly apologize for our sin and go on about our lifestyle. Repentance is more than that. It is a complete departure from the sinful lifestyles that we so easily fall into. God didn't say that once you commit one sin, you're going to Hell for all eternity, otherwise he would've just skipped putting us here on Earth and sent us all straight to Hell. That's the whole point. We only have a short time in the scheme of things here on Earth, and that's what makes it so important that we make sure that we use what little time we have to our advantage. God has given us free will because He did not want us to be puppets on a string. We are the ones who have to decide whether a lifetime of sin is worth eternity in Hell or if we want to turn away from Satan and Hell and serve God. Sin only lasts for a season; our life outside of this world, whether we spend it in Heaven or Hell, will be eternal, and that is why you see so many people on here being "preachy", as some have dubbed us. If being "preachy" is what it takes to get through to people, then so be it, but this is not a matter to be taken lightly, and as such it deserves more than just a sentance or two of explanation. To make a long story short, (I know, too late) there is plenty of justice in infinate damnation, because it is the natural consequence of tuning out God and His teachings.
2006-09-02 02:54:36 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
what if remorse is never felt . if a young girl is raped beaten burned and all other kinds of even nastier stuff but lived . does that mean he should still live and possibly laugh just one more time or if she died should he also ? what about the family and friends on both sides are they going to take out action on each other for what someone else did and if so are they to be punished too everyone did what they want so remorse will never be felt where will this all end . man that took a lot out of me been there
2006-09-02 03:07:03 · answer #5 · answered by k dog 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is fair and just, we don't know exactly what hell is or how long people will stay there, it's not the flesh but the soul that lives eternally so I personally believe the pain will be a spiritual anguish rather than physical, Jesus made it clear that we have every opportunity to choose God or not during our life, who are we to question His judgement. Read Romans chap 9, does the thing that is created say to the creator, why have you made me like this? No, everything ultimately belongs to God and is His to do as He sees fit, I will say that God is just, the punishment will fit the crime.
2006-09-02 02:36:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I read recently from a Theology-professor that hell was not mentioned in the bible before the 14century. Hell was invented from the church to have punishment against people not following their orders!
Recently I heard the theory that heaven exists in different levels. Who ever has forgiven to more people, and is forgiven by more people, gets in a higher level. To me, that makes much more sense since God is always prepared to forgive your sin.
But the lot is a matter of believing or not, anyway?!
2006-09-02 02:45:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jessus said ones: Be happy if you are judge here, not in heaven! A crime is a crime, no matter the way is happened! God could judge a crime made or not! Anything depends of soul and kindness of that person! Think simple and you will find the answer!
2006-09-02 02:34:14 · answer #8 · answered by Jerdy 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
all sin is ultimately against God. God is an eternal and infinite Being. As a result, all sin is worthy of an eternal punishment.
2006-09-02 02:39:30 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Because while we are here we are given a chance to repent. We are told that we have our lives to change and repent and come unto Christ. If we are unwilling to do this, then are reward is damnation. We have many chances to repent. Those who refuse to do not deserve to dwell in God's presence, ever.
"Wherefore, men are fred according to the flesh; and all things are given them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself. And now, my sons, I would that ye should look to the great Mediator, and hearken unto his great commandments; and be faithful unto his words, and choose eternal ife, according to the will of his Holy Spirit; And not choose eternal death, according to the will of the flesh and the evil which is therein, which giveth the spirit of the devil power to captivate, to bring you down to hell, that he may reign over you in his own kingdom."
"O how great the goodness of our God, who prepareth a way for our escape from the grasp of this aweful monster; yea, that monster, death and hell, which I call the death of thd body, and also the death of the spirit."
2006-09-02 02:40:31 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋