and having always existed how can you believe that space travels on forever or that the it has always existed? Wouldn't those fit into the same realm of unbelievable?
2006-09-01 11:15:31 · 14 answers · asked by Debra M. Wishing Peace To All 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
You "see" the universe or part of it?
2006-09-01 11:22:13 · update #1
Actually what I am trying to say is the same argument about Gods always existing is ridiculous as well.
2006-09-01 11:24:57 · update #2
I fully believe He exists, has always done so, and is all powerfull.
2006-09-01 11:25:25 · update #3
John 1:15 (King James Version)
15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John 11:24-26 (King James Version)
24Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
25Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Revelation 1:7-9 (King James Version)
7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
9I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:10-13 (King James Version)
10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Revelation 21:5-7 (King James Version)
5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Revelation 22:12-14 (King James Version)
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
2006-09-01 11:23:57 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
It's very true that removing god from the discussion does NOTHING to resolve the mystery. I see people completely not getting the implications of the mystery of existence - they take god out of the discussion and think the problem is resolved. As a little kid, I used to sit in bed and get it an almost panic state by trying to understand the 'beginning'. I would take god out of the picture and then would still be left with something (process, potential, etc.) always existing. And then I realized that everything that exists is essentially dependent on something that always existed. And then I tried to wrap my mind around how something can just exist - where did it come from, how can anything exist -- really really get into the implications of this and what this means in terms of all existence. This is horrifically unsettling (and those who REALLY contemplate it get the same experience -- both atheist and believer). While typing this, I had a hint of the panicky feeling of this realization.
2006-09-01 18:24:24 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
To most, the majesty of GOD is unbelievable. They don't give HIM enough credit to HIS true self of existance. God created the universe in a whole to the expansion of what we define as the universe. Something that has always been there, but had no name. Humans tendancy to define everything is killing the majesty of THE GOD. Most people always try and follow a light of thier truth, but space itself has no light. It is the light itself. "And GOD made light and saw it was good". Meaning before light, darkness has always been. That light of space is the same thing that keeps the earth in it's place. The same light that surrounds the stars in the heavens. The light of the sun itself exists in the light of darkness. Unbelievable, but true. When people say eternity it is defined as infinite space and time. The universe with no beggining nor end. To it's existance is to my belief and acceptance from THE GOD. There is only one that is capable of creating such a thing and all that exists in it. Meaning earth and all SHE holds(including myself), stars, extra celestrial beings(I have to be hard headed to believe humans are the only intelligent beings, but even they have a GOD), and what is of the unknown. The great prophets of this planet and the righteous people of different religions. With the omnipotent definition of THE GOD, people forget how subtle HE can be. To add to HIS great quality of the omnipotent. This coming from a muslim. Hanif to be exact. PEACE!!
There is no alpha nor omega. No Yem nor Yah. Just GOD. To whtever you want to call HIM/HER/IT. "when the GOD intends a thing HE simply says BE, and it is"-quran
2006-09-01 18:29:49 · answer #3 · answered by Mitchell B 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Even people who believe in God trip over the idea of "omnipotence." Omniscience, too. Ditto for "infinite." We just are built to understand things that are so much bigger than we are.
The thing is, if God is omnipotent, does He have responsibility for everything that happens? I struggled with that, and came to see that because He can doesn't mean He does - in other words, human beings have free will, for example, so while God could force us to worship Him, or to do, or not do, something, He allows us to make our own choices.
Also, we can't see the big picture. In the Bible, it says that we see but through a glass, darkly. Two people can go through the same event side by side, but to hear them tell about it, they had different experiences. This tells me something about the limits of human understanding.
God, who knows all, sees a picture much bigger than I can grasp even the edges of. From His perspective, many things may make sense, like the loss of my best friend last year, that make no sense to me.
It galls human pride to admit that we can't understand everything, control everything, that we might not be the biggest thing around. Most people seem to want a God no bigger than they are, capable of loving only who they love, forgiving only who they can forgive.
God, who is infinite, can forgive what I can't, and love people I can't love. He moves things on a scale so much larger than I am that I can't understand His plan. That's either frightening, or comforting, depending on your point of view. I find the idea that someone is caring for me, for everything, who is wiser and more powerful than I am, reassuring. It's nice to know that I, basically a nice person but flawed, am not the ultimate force in the universe.
Ultimately, it comes down to faith. On some level, you have to accept that you can try to understand, but you will never have all of the answers.
2006-09-01 18:26:04 · answer #4 · answered by peculiarpup 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No not at all. There is no evidence whatsoever that god exists, or, if he/she/it does, that he/she/it is ominpotent. But there is no evidence that space ever tops anywhere or that it had a beginning. So it is really just the opposite of what you say. It is true, though, that things like infinite space are hard to wrap your mind around, but that isn't a problem because they have zero impact on your everyday life. And god also has zero impact because he doesn't exist.
2006-09-01 18:22:47 · answer #5 · answered by Larry 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Unbelievable no?
Unfathomable (beyond your ability to comprehend)? Yes.
But when were you ever promised that the universe exists so that you would be able to understand it?
Lack of makind's understanding reality is not the basis for evidence of god.
You're a regular here.
You should recognize that argument... it's called "God of the Gaps" and is considered to be a great insult to god.
2006-09-01 18:22:37 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I don't say either. I say that I do not believe in God because I have no reason to do so. I am not afraid of things that I can't explain. It simply makes me want to learn more. I do not know enough about the universe to make any kind of absurd claims about it, nor does anyone else.
2006-09-01 18:22:26 · answer #7 · answered by Kathryn™ 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
This question as well as all your some other of your question becomes, after a while, theoretical and downright sophomoric. There is absolutely no human being who could give you answers to complement your questions, whatsoever.
But hey, don't feel pregnant, there are a lot of others on here who come up with psuedo-intelligent questions.
2006-09-01 18:26:17 · answer #8 · answered by Sick Puppy 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
He could just get some Viagra for that.
Soldier of God, a.k.a.: David Karesh: Are you typing from Heaven?
2006-09-01 18:22:23 · answer #9 · answered by georgia b 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Clarification: Bible does NOT say believe every spirit, but rather believe not every spirit (God is a Spirit), since one of twain spirits to try(test) of such allegoric law and grace is the spirit of error, and antichrist (anti-the end of the law).
Ye shall "know" the truth... shall make you "free" of believing. For even devils "believe" there is one God, theirs, and fear such tormenting Law Law God on high in plural and divided heavens.
- "their part": God(Grace) is evil(law) spoken of
- "your part": God(Grace) is (grace) glory-fied
http://www.godshew.org/TheirPartYourPart.htm
Solomon: With all thy getting, get understanding.
Result: thy head then crowned with "grace glory".
The "grace"(God) of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
2006-09-01 19:05:02 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋