like the Father in the Book of Ezekiel- why does poor meek and gentle Jesus have to die like a common criminal on a cross?
2006-09-01 06:02:15 · 26 answers · asked by billy t 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
God was formed in the imagination of very disturbed people.
2006-09-01 06:04:03 · answer #1 · answered by bonzo the tap dancing chimp 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
"... they are convicted by their own words ... "
You obviously have never been seriously hurt in a relationship. Forgiveness given completely free by the hurt party is meaningless. It can not restore the relationship. The offending party must be aware of their error, apologize to the offended party and say that the offender won't ever do it again. This third act is what repentence means - "I repent of my error, I won't do it again." Only when these three things are in place does forgiveness have any meaning. If the first three aren't there, there is no way to know if the offender understands what he did was wrong. If the offender doesn't understand what he did was wrong, there is no way to trust him again.
Imagine having a girlfriend that you love deeply. You love her! Seeing her each day is the highlight of your life. It is Friday, you are going to meet her at a bar ... you go to the bar and find her friday night behind a night club with her skirt up getting reamed by the bartender. She looks over at you and says nothing. The next day she says "Did you have a good time at the bar?" and says nothing else. She knows that you know that she was fu*cking the bartender. Does your forgiveness make any sense? Does it have any meaning? She hasn't said she was sorry, she hasn't said she thought she did something wrong. Its now Saturday afternoon - is she gonna bang another bartender tonight?
Only an emotionally dead moron would sustain a relationship with such a tramp. If this situation wouldn't hurt you deeply, then you can never understand what God is doing. His actions are motivated by someone He loves.
Do you see now? Forgiveness simply can't come first.
God's goal isn't to just sit around and tell you what to do (this is right, this is wrong). God wants to have a relationship with you. Sin damaged that relationship. There really is only one way to restore a relationship, and that is God's ultimate goal. To forgive before you or I acknowledged our error would do nothing to heal the relationship.
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2006-09-01 13:10:51 · answer #2 · answered by robabard 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The consequence of Adam's sin was to change the balance of power in the world.
Before Adam's sin, Adam had dominion over the whole world.
After Adam's sin, Satan had dominion over Adam, as well as over the whole world, and Adam had a death sentence hanging over him.
Let's assume that God forgave Adam immediately.
Fine. Adam's forgiven. Now what was Adam going to do to put everything back the way it was?
Adam didn't have the power anymore, Satan did. And Satan wasn't going to give it back.
God is a God of laws and justice. Unfortunately, Satan acquired the power he held over Adam and the earth because Adam chose to give it to him, in exchange for the knowledge of good and evil.
If God came in a simply took away Satan's power, than God would have been committing a sin, and that's not an option for God.
The only way God could fix things was to send his son as a man, allow Satan to unjustly put him to death, try Satan for his crime, find Satan guilty, and then legally strip him of his power and authority.
God awarded all that power and authority to Jesus, the new head of all mankind, and Jesus gave us our freedom.
Now that we are indeed free, we can choose to repent, if we wish, faithfully accept Christ's sacrifice, receive forgiveness for our sins, and be at peace with God.
Mission accomplished! But it wasn't easy and it wasn't simple, even for God. He went through an awful lot of trouble just to save us.
2006-09-01 15:06:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Dear Billy T,
If you examine the whole verse (John 3:16) you would find that the little word "so" means in this manner. The word "believe" also has been assumed always to mean "saved." But if we examine that word throughout the Bible, we find that it can refer to those who believe for a little while and then fall away (were never saved). The Bible also tells us that "the devils believe and tremble.. So "believe" in this verse could not mean saved because salvation was never for the fallen angels--just mankind.
Why couldn't He just forgive? Because God is perfectly just. He could never forgive sin by just overlooking it. For someone to be forgiven of their sins, Christ Jesus had to pay for the sins of that person. And the payment is to spend eternity in hell! You see the Magnificent mercy of the Lord who would submit Himself (sinless) to damnation to pay the sins debt for a rebellious sinner! By the way, there is no other individual that could endure eternal damnation and come out on the other side except God (Jesus Christ) Himself. "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."
2006-09-01 13:23:40 · answer #4 · answered by pilgrim_153 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The whole reason why Jesus came down and died for everyone's sins is because it says in the Bible that God is a Just God, and that when someone sins they deserve justice-they owe a debt. It's like speeding then getting a traffic ticket. Jesus came down to pay for all debts once and for all (sins).
2006-09-01 13:07:10 · answer #5 · answered by resilience 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I beleive that poor meek and gentle Jesus was willing to die out of Love for us
2006-09-01 13:13:13 · answer #6 · answered by tamara.knsley@sbcglobal.net 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God is love, love is just.
if a judge were to simply forgive everyone that came through his courtroom, no matter what they've done or even if they've shown remorse for it; would he keep his job? would he be a just judge? God, being good, cannot condone evil, lest he be called evil.
in order for there to be remission of sins, blood must be shed. for every action, there must be an equal and opposite reaction. to cause a reaction, God had to implement the equal and opposite action. sinless man dies-> sinful men don't have to die (spiritually)
2006-09-01 15:24:20 · answer #7 · answered by lordaviii 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God do forgives. I cannot answer in God's place but what I know is that Jesus had to suffer as such so that you and I will live. That was a special love, an uncompared love. Yes God is really love.
2006-09-01 13:09:15 · answer #8 · answered by patrick w 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Justice. If God allowed all wrong-doing to go unpunished, it would not be just. For instance, all humanity's reaction to the murder of the innocent generally is that the wrongdoers must be stopped and must be punished. That instinct was placed in us by God. If God were to allow all evil to slide, he would not be a just God. In order for God to be just, all sin must be punished. For evil committed by God's children, he allows the price which Jesus paid to be substituted.
2006-09-01 15:10:22 · answer #9 · answered by gg_oz_wm 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because God, as described in the Judeo-Christian scriptures, is a malicious, sadistic monster who delights in causing humans to suffer. So even though Jesus was, technically, a part of himself, he was still a human being so he just couldn't help himself in making him suffer a needless, brutal death.
I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would worship such a being.
2006-09-01 13:08:42 · answer #10 · answered by Steven S 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
He didn't. He gave his life and died for you and for me.
FYI - Jesus was far from meek and mild. He was a real threat to the Jewish religious hiarchy and many feared him. When he comes again he will be coming as a King and will be bring judgement to all.
2006-09-01 13:07:59 · answer #11 · answered by zero 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋