What is the most effective form of self defence/martial arts?

Question

If 'only a ninja can kill another ninja' what would be the most potent form of fighting/defending.
I know K1 is pretty sick, but its just street fighting really. Kickboxing is tough too as is Kung Fu. but what stands up against them all???

Answer 1

If ninedemonsgod think that in Kung Fu we don't train with real people, use bags, go hard then he has no idea what he is talking about. I would like for him to come to my dojo on sparring night and see how we train.
Like other people have said no true martial artist will talk bad about other styles. Part of Martial Art's is respect and being humble. Look at what people always bash everyone else.
Not one style is right for everyone. Alot depends on the person, their build, ect..

Answer 2

Ok, again and again this question comes up, which form is better. The answer is none, its a matter of how skilled you are in your form and how well you can apply the knowledge you have in various situations.

People are always claiming Kung Fu is just for show, Ninedemons seems to think little of Kung Fu and one of his articles states the same.

"In the K1 fighting circuit today, the Muay Thai skill of 3x Champion Peter Aerts continues to dominate the ring. Why do we never see any Sanshou fighters ever competing in K1? One of the reasons why 'Sanshou' in Sport Wushu exist as it is today is due to the many defeats by Kung Fu fighters at the hands of Thai boxers in the past few decades. Sanshou today is virtually a watered down version of amateur Muay Thai. This shows an unwilling admittance of the superiority of Muay Thai techniques & the importance of contact sparring. Though inadequate, it is the best Sport Wushu can offer in reality application. Like amateur Thai boxers, Sanshou competitors are clad in padding from head to toe, but unlike them, they are disallowed elbow & knee attacks. Worse, they are not even allowed to use continuous strikes. Sanshou fighters are only allowed the low roundhouse kicks from the Muay Thai arsenal. Stand-up grappling in Sanshou is adequate, but it would still not be enough against Muay Thai. As a result, put an amateur Thai boxer & Sanshou fighter of similar experience together & the former would almost surely win. Why do the advocates of Sanshou not try to improve on this?" taken from http://crane.50megs.com - Kung Fu vs Muay Thai.

Now this artile goes on to say that any Muay Thai fighter with minimal training can beat a san shou fighter because san shou is lacking. This might be why ninedemons thinks so highly of his muay tai and nothing else. Now I am not saying anything against the form itself, I am saying that having a single purpose mindset that yours is the only form is a bad idea. I'm going to post a number of sites with videos of Muay Thai vs San Shou, and in none of those would I say Muay Thai is the hands down winner, as a matter of fact I would say San Shou takes the majority of the fights.

I'm also including some Cung Le footage to stop all of those MMA fighters out there saying San shou and Kung Fu are worthless. Yes San shou is a sparring/competition form, why? Because to use the actual techniques most Kung Fu students learn in real combat would result in too many injuries. Kung Fu styles originated as combat forms and thus were intended to maim and kill opponents, not something we run into everyday anymore. The competitions force opponents to fight within certain boundaries limiting styles and forms. This is true of all of the fighting forms not just Kung Fu.

Get off the high horses and realize that it's not the style but the student and his knowledge of what he has learned that is dangerous.

Answer 3

I would like to preface my answer by stating my definition of "effective" is what works in a street fight. Not in a controlled setting. If it were what is effective in the ring my answer would be different...

Every Style of Martial Art has it's Strengths & Weaknesses. Personally I train Muay Thai, I think it has some components that are effective in Street Fighting (Knee's, Elbows, & Boxing)

Krav Maga in many respects might be one of these most effective, by design. Krav was developed by the Isreali military to get an average person proficient at hand to hand combat in a short amount of time. In creating this fighting system, they borrowed elements from other martial arts that worked, and skipped the one's that didn't.

A great deal of Krav incorporates the strikes of Muay Thai, grappling of JuJitsu, and Boxing.

Good luck

Answer 4

Think about this, if you play street football or basketball (football or basketball in a park or field) all your life but never practice. Do you think you will be able to match those who are professional football or basketball player that train, do drill, learn stragery, etc...?

K-1 and kickboxer are probably tougher than kung fu in most case. I have got many broken bones, sprain many muscles, got bruise almost everyday, and more. Plus kickboxer usually train against live resisting opponent, moving pads, bag, etc... so they're able to put 100% of force into it.

So they have their instict, reflex, muscle memory, and everything built in. Do you think someone who doesn't train in real life situtation have all of those?

As for most effective form of self defense, it's actually gym that train the harder. If you see them beat the hell out of bag and pads, learn some techniques that are easy to pulls off, no complex technique or mental or spiritual crap, don't try to do multi attack scene, do live spar or grappling on regular base, and competition. Then it's safe to say those guys know what they're doing.

Also here's something you may want to read:

http://crane.50megs.com/index6.html...

Here's articles specific on Muay Thai vs Kung Fu:
http://crane.50megs.com/index6d.htm...

Answer 5

Any martial art training is better than no martial arts training?
What is the best, can only be answered by "What do you want to get from martial arts training".

No professional in this field will offend another martial arts, itis just something we do not do. To say a Japanese style is better than a Chinese style, or a Korean style is better than an Okinawa style, or is Japanese Ju-Jitsu better than Brzilian Ju-Jitsu, or perhaps can a good high school wrestler defend himself on the street is a question that is impossible to answer, because on the street where you may have to fight for your life, or save a girl from being raped, or protect an elderly person from being robbed, are not a fundamental of what martial arts you know, it is how well you were trained, and how you can fight in the situation you are in.

The philosophy behind Krav Maga differs greatly from other types of martial arts and sel-defense systems. We do not do "Katas" (forms), we do building block training to our students..."How they will get out of a situation". The pillars of Krav Maga training are based on:

1. Simultaneous Defense and Attack
2. Continuous Motion
3. Decisive Action
4. Focus and strike the vulnerable soft tissues and pressure points.
5. Learning Process

In Krav Maga you will start with the simplest defense, known as the 360 degree defense, which will enhance you peripheral vision and protect yourself from being hit from an outside attack. You will learn basic upper and lower body strikes (the art of using your fist, elbows, knees and feet) to hit your attacker. You will also learn how to defend against incoming strikes, tackles, chokes, and other movements.

In sum, our training is a real as possible. In my studio, when a student boy or girl, man or woman, old or young must escape from a choke hold, the person that is applying the choke hold is a 220lb Power-Lifter, and the student must get out of the choke hold and attack the aggressor. When it is time for one of my students to master a take down before they move to the next block of instruction, believe me the person that they have to take down is much bigger and stronger than the student. We do this in Krav Maga to give the most realistic training as possible.

So, if the martial arts you take can prepare you to survive on the street, to protect your loves ones, to win...then it doesn't matter what name the martial art is.....it matters on the quality of training you received, the realistic training you learned from, the quality of your instructor........and will this work for me on the street.

Answer 6

Although they all have their drawbacsk the most effective in my opinion would either be the russian art of Sambo, Brazillian Jiujitsu ( helps to incapacitate attacker with least amount of force needed) or Muay Thai kickboxing as clinch fighting occurs most often and a great amount of damage can be generated from the elbows and knees

Answer 7

In a stand up fight some one with lots of boxing training will usually come out on top. Once the fight is taken to the ground Jujitsu and wrestling will dominate.

Boxers and Wrestlers usually are much better conditioned then other competitive fighters.

All the UFC champs have trained mostly it these 3 areas.

Answer 8

i love every type of martial arts. there all coo, none of em are better than the other. actually everyone of them has there flaws. im not gonna say anything about how the other martial arts train cuz every dojo or gym trains differently. But in a fight you must use anything that can git you out of the situation, if the person is in kicking range, kick the shyt outta him, if he's close, punch the shyt outta him. but never let them get you in a head lock. if u wanna git urself out of those locks, u should take AIKIDO

ive watched vids on you tube and personally i train TKD and soon imma join a place that trains bok fu, kenpo, tkd, & kick boxing.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

Just like was already stated, there is no such thing as the best martial art. That being said, I would tell you that if you want to increase your striking and blocking techniques quickly, you should check out TKD, Muay Thai or boxing.