my argument is that he seems fine .she says that the brainwashing goes deep an may noy be obvious at first and they cannot hold down normal relationships because of this
2006-08-31 21:54:41 · 16 answers · asked by toni ann l 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
True. But here's the thing, most of them had f~ed up lives before they joined. So when they found all they had to do was follow orders things became all about the corps. But a lot of them were criminals in the first place so it makes them hate the corps. Most of them think that they're going to die or just get shipped away anyways. That's why the inability to have a normal relationship.
2006-08-31 22:00:40 · answer #1 · answered by tumadre 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Well, your friend doesn't know ALL Marines. I am a retired Marine, married to the same woman for 24 yrs, raised 4 normal, actually really good boys. I have lot's of friends, some are really good, close relationships. I 've been a cop for over 20 yrs, never been in trouble on or off the job. Pass my psych reviews every time, actually have been called a rock solid stable individual (not sure about all THAT, but I'll take it).
People who make these kind of general statements about a group comprised of hundreds of thousands of people do so out of hatefulness and ignorance. Honestly, it's a little more than insulting considering the sacrifices up to and including our own lives that past, present, and future Marines place on the line after they earn the right to put on the uniform. Semper Fi !
2006-09-01 06:12:01 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Marines arent brainwashed. the same person that goes into bootcamp comes out. if a person cant hold a normal relationship after becoming a marine they couldnt before either. the difference would be that as a marine your relationships have a lot more stressors. stress about your job, combat, deployments, being away from your family and friends. this can add stress to a relationship that will cause problems. i think your friend is just blaming the Marine Corp on her and his own personal problems and incompatabilities.
my old master sergent was happily married for 28 years and counting. my gunner for 19. my gunney was divorced twice. im going to marry my girl of 2.5 years.
being in any branch of the military, or other high rish high stress jobs, firefighter, police etc will cause stress on a relationship. but its up to the people involved to work things out...if they want...
2006-09-01 05:08:23 · answer #3 · answered by gooslegeek 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you know any Marines??? i know a number of companies and the majoritity of the guys & gals are in happy healthy relationships. those that are not.... the majority due to the reason many poeple aren't "too much bagage or too picky". I would say some Marines are not married due to the Corps, but not becuase of brainwashing....
none of us civilians know what any military go through when they are the first in, salvaging, serving.... they don't speak gloriously about the savagery they have to entertain. they look the devil in the face and have stand against him - literally.
if it's your friend that's the unmarried Marine - let him know that there are termendous amounts of men and women not in the Corps that are not married too. Tell him to keep his eyes open at the USO, Navy League events, etc becuase the Corps hasn't brainwashed him anymore than any other "jarhead" (used with the deepest affection!)
Semper Fi!!!
(the "never touch a sleeping marine" part though is tough right when they come out of boot camp - don't, truly don't or their right hook will land you on your fanny!)
2006-09-01 05:07:41 · answer #4 · answered by Marysia 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It isn't "brainwashing". It's that to be a Marine you must accept the culture of the Marines.
The result is an intensification of pressures to conform. And the culture of the Marines is forcefully patriotic -- which means not true patriotism but conformity to conservative values and image rather than substance, and loyalty to the hierarchy whether that is consistent with law and international law or not.
Americans generally have a tendency to vote against interest and over trivial, irrelevant issues like gun control, abortion, flag burning, school prayer, stem cells, and so on. How much more is this true of Marines who are underpaid, have seen their VA benefits and family allowances and educational rights eroded. And who think that "supporting the troops" means supporting the President even if the President doesn't support them by raising their pay and benefits and giving them better equipment.
To the President and to the Marines, then, "supporting the troops" means spending hundreds of billions of dollars on aircraft and vessels and high-tech stuff, and rather little on wages and benefits.
But it's all a matter of environment. One cannot succeed as a Marine unless s/he conforms to its culture.
2006-09-01 05:06:49 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
My husband and I were both Marines, and we have a great relationship. People only think that we are brainwashed after bootcamp because we are so different after graduation. We gain a ton of confidence in ourselves, learn manners, and self discipline. The average Marine leaves home for the first time to go to bootcamp. So you have normal 18 year old kids going from hanging out and partying to becoming a marine in only 3 months. Its a Huge difference. You are changed so much that of course your old friends that are still hanging out and partying are going to think that you are a completely different person, hence, Its people that dont really understand military that believe this. I wouldnt even worry about what they say.
2006-09-01 05:06:14 · answer #6 · answered by niransmami 2 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Maybe its your friend who is brainwashed? Some of the best military thinkers in the world is marines and marines had learned new ways to do warfare and amphibius landing ever since they where created. The latest "inventions" are the LCAC and the MV 22 osprey. Plus they have the best close support airforce in the world! Johan.
2006-09-01 05:24:07 · answer #7 · answered by Johan from Sweden 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am married to a Marine. His biggest fault is that he has a tendency to protect me when people start getting loud and obnoxious, and and it looks like a fight is going to start. We have only been married for 3 years. I am his second wife. He lost his first wife in a motorcycle accident after 18 years of marriage. Being in the military, whether USMC, Army, Navy, Air Force, or Coast Guard, puts a strain on relationships. Imagine,having to say good by to your wife/husband for a year. While you go overseas are being shot at and have to protect yourself and your comrades. Where you are facing death or watching people die all the time. Our relationship is very happy and I think better than many who have not been in the military. My husband is confident, knows who he is, what he wants, intelligent, and has the drive to get what he wants.
2006-09-01 05:30:53 · answer #8 · answered by msfyrebyrd 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
as a marine i will admit that i feel brainwashed sometimes. like when im in a restraunt and they start playing the musical version of the national anthom and i feel compelled to stand up. or when i feel the need to tell my kid to "carry on!" after a diaper change or when my family is about to walk out the door and i ask if anyone needs to make a "head call" when i call my sis to ask her what the p.od. is and tell my son to "practice o.r.m. cause safety is our priority." but that doesnt mean that i cant have a decent normal relationship im married and have kids and i couldnt love them more. your friend is only a little bit rite.
2006-09-01 05:04:54 · answer #9 · answered by specialmama 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Your friend is wrong. It's ridiculous that people have these beliefs about Marines, or any Armed Force Member for that matter. My husband is in the Navy, but has been stationed with plenty of Marines, and we have friends that are Marines, all who are in good marriages and are good parent's to their children.
I don't deny there aren't some Marines out there that are jerks, but it's not because they are a Marine, it's because they are just a jerk like any other jerk in the world!
2006-09-01 08:41:12 · answer #10 · answered by Naples_6 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋