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First of all, you can prove the existence of something. However, you can prove the non-existence of god. It is a basic law of physics and science. Remember science class?

You form a hypothesis right? God exists

You gather facts, information, and test right? God has properties, omnipotent, omniscient, Omni benevolent. The subject should not have any conflicting properties.

If the hypothesis in question doesn't add up right, or doesn't work out even once you disregard it. God has conflicting properties that does not add up or make logical sense. His existence with his properties is a logical impossibility.

You cannot test faith because it is not based on reason or fact nor based on logic. Now in a illogical world, this god may exist. However, do not claim that your belief is based on logic because it isn’t.

Now on the existence of an undefined god, you cannot disprove or prove it can you? That is why I am agnostic. Too many atheists are just as blind as Christians.

2006-08-31 10:45:03 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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To be brief, you mentioned the following: "in a illogical world, this god may exist..."
You are correct in all of your scientific reasoning in about going it a scientific way. In a logical world, ... whatever.
The problem lies in the fact that, and you may deny this fact if you want, this world is illogical.
There is no logic to love. There is no logic to why we toil everday to create something that is going to be discarded into the trash. There is no logic to anything if you boil it down "right."

It is, as you have found out in your scientific theory, all how you look at something. Yes, a tree exists because we think we can apply properties to it and physically see/touch/feel/taste/smell it... again - all those things are just electronic impluses in our brains. So, (long story short) if my electronic impluses says God does or does not exist... I must.

2006-08-31 10:54:31 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

You said this: "Now on the existence of an undefined god, you cannot disprove or prove it can you?"

An undefined thing is - what? Something to take seriously because it is, umm, what, exactly?
Precisely what is it you are being agnostic about? To say a thing is undefined is an empty statement. You cannot even say that an "undefined god" is even a god. It could be a left foot. Or a large cluster of footballs. We don't know - "it" is undefined.

To give 'undefined' gods any credit of existence (which is what agnosticism does) is, in a word, silly.

2006-08-31 11:06:00 · answer #2 · answered by sheeple_rancher 5 · 0 0

Depends on what you mean by proof. Can you prove by laboratory experiments that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, or that Professor Mustard killed Mrs. Plumb with the candlestick? No, you use circumstantial evidence instead.

Any science book will tell you that the existence or non-existence of God cannot be proven or disproven empirically.

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...The resurrection of Christ was the legitimate climax to his unique life and death. He foretold his resurrection to his disciples directly (Mt.16:21) and to others through parables (Mt. 12:40).

Frank Morrison, a British lawyer of the 1930s, undertook an expedition to collect circumstantial evidence to disprove the resurrection. Such evidence, of course, is admissible in all courts of law in civilised countries to prove or disprove events of which there are no living eyewitnesses. When he analysed the evidence, he reached a stunning conclusion: The resurrection had actually taken place! Morrison presented his case in his book, "Who Moved the Stone?"

Another factor worth considering is the character of the disciples. They were eleven cowardly men who shut themselves in a room after the crucifixion because they were afraid. Yet what galvanized them into action so that within their own lifetime, much of the thenknown world could hear the message of Christ? Some of them paid for this message with their lives. Would they have done so if the resurrection were a hoax? ...

2006-08-31 10:56:31 · answer #3 · answered by Randy G 7 · 1 0

A good start to prove the existence of God is to listen the NDE story. There's no bible involved but factual experience which are very consistent. Awareness and perception that continues to exist in spite of clinical death, the meeting of dead relatives, are more than just physiological process of brain starved out of oxygen. The NDE's can tell exactly what's going on during the critical stage of their clinical death and was not refuted by doctors(atheist) who were around the time of operation. From here you may proceed continue searching the invisible God that cannot be proven by logic as you said.

2006-08-31 10:54:06 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

You know, you are probably right. But some of us just happen to believe that the Bible (because of it's antiquity and survival, along with being penned by persons of extremely diverse backgrounds over a period of 1600 or so years, without conflicting tenets) is in fact the inspired word of God. That being said, it's easy to have and practice "faith" in an unseen God.
You can't SEE electricity, wind, gravity, etc, but you still believe in them because you CAN see the results of their actions.

2006-08-31 10:56:20 · answer #5 · answered by Mike C 2 · 1 0

I like this question. The problem I have with atheists is, they think on a merely human level using human logic. God(s) can exist beyond such logic if God(s) is truly divine.

2006-08-31 10:49:20 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I even have particular ideals some writer, yet i visit purely say this. while i examine out creation and its complexity, i won't be able to think of how that writer might want to make us as some sort of test. Its like he might already have the answer to regardless of they're experimenting approximately. except that's to test with some thing that would desire to be completely outdoors the area of our understanding or comprehension, wherein case regardless of if it became revealed to us it would be so precis that we would by no ability have the potential to "get it"

2016-11-06 04:22:53 · answer #7 · answered by falls 4 · 0 0

God would be unaffected. Science, by definition, deals only with the natural world. God, assuming his existance, is supernatural.

2006-08-31 10:49:10 · answer #8 · answered by x 5 · 0 0

Your reasoning is not sound as it does not take into accout the supernatural nature of God.

You cannot disprove or prove something supernatural through natural means.

2006-08-31 10:48:46 · answer #9 · answered by Adyghe Ha'Yapheh-Phiyah 6 · 1 0

try praying and see if you can tell if God is real.I have had many prayed answered. I truly believe that God can live threw anything and anywhere.
the true question here is can your faith live threw anything?

2006-08-31 10:50:10 · answer #10 · answered by Marg N 4 · 1 0

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