About abortion?

Question

I have a serious question about how people decide that abortion is murder in the early stages. I put it in religion because it seems like the conservative Christians are the biggest opposers of abortion.
But if you believe in birth control then you probably use condoms and maybe even spermicide condoms, which kills the sperm either way. If you're a woman and take the pill or get shots etc., you're killing the egg.
Now an early abortion in the first month is killing a zygote basically. It is a clump of cells that start to resemble some kind of alien eventually. But besides being shaped vaguely like a human, it doesn't have any organs, no nervous system (it can't see, hear, smell, taste, or feel), under the official definition it doesn't qualify as a living organism. My point is, if you can kill the egg and sperm seperately why can't you kill what is essentially just the egg and sperm combined? Destroying them seperately and destroying them together doesn't seem too different to me.

This is an honest question about how people call this murder, I'm not calling anyone stupid or anything so don't be a martyr, martyrs are annoying. And if you completely oppose birth control then the question isn't really for you. So answer without being aggressive or acting like I'm attacking you.

And by the way, I know the heart stars beating ever so faintly in the second month, but that doesn't really constitute life.

And what I mean by it isn't alive under the official definition is that in order for something to be a living organism it has to be made of cells, use energy, respond to stimuli, be able to grow, and reproduce. And it obviously can't reproduce or respond to stimuli. Again, I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong, asking for opinions.

Oh by the way, no matter where you stand on the issue I am firmly on the side that it's up to the person who's pregnant. It's none of my business and it's none of your business, I guess I'm pro-choice if you have to have a label.

To J, I actually knew a girl that had this happen to her. Luckily she had a miscarriage, only 14 at the time. Man people can suck.

Cogito, I honestly don't see how everything that could have been a life had a purpose already. Doesn't that contradict that God gave us free will? I mean, two people made the decision to have sex, God didn't make them, so to say an accidental impregnation had a purpose is to say that they didn't have a choice as to whether or not they wanted to make a baby. By the way, I'm an atheist, I'm just going off what I've heard.

To Doug, actuall not 100% percent become humans, 20% of pregnancies are miscarriages. But I'm glad you gave your opinion but you don't have to state it like it's a fact. And the qualities of a living organism aren't really a lie haha, if you disagree that's cool, I was asking for opinions but try not to slander.

Answer 1

I agree with you whole heartedly. I don't think that it's anyones choice besides the woman who hosts the zygote and I think that early stage abortion is not wrong.

Answer 2

The issue is not killing a sperm cell or an egg cell, which is discarded by the body if unused anyway.

The issue is killing the tiny person who was created and ensouled the moment the sperm cell fertilized the egg cell.

From that point forward, we have viable human life, and anyone who attempts to interfere with that life is interfering with something that only God has the right to decide.

What do you mean "official definition"? You really mean "political definition" or "acceptable lie".

The simple fact is, 100% of he time, that "mass of cells" people always talk about ends up becoming a human being.

That says it all.

Answer 3

By 5 weeks the baby's heart is beating and this is right around the time a girl is missing her period. I think by then it is a human life, and not just a clump of cells. I heard the heart beat at 7 weeks and could see the baby's head and beginnings of arms and legs in the sonogram. The heartbeat was not faint, it was at 160, which is a very strong heartbeat. An egg is not a baby by itself and neither is sperm, so you can not compare them.

Answer 4

My friend, if you believe in a creator, as Billions of people do and have a right to do so, then by definition a creator creates for a reason. Scientifically we know that our our created "human potential" is set at the moment of conception. A creator can judge what you might have been versus what you actually did.

This has nothing to do with clumps of cells, or heartbeats, or pain.

Answer 5

Birth control, isn't the same as killing a zygote. You need both sperm and egg to make a human, so killing just one isn't a human. A zygote is future life! Imagine what that zygote could become one day, maybe a doctor, humanitarian, etc. Killing god's gift to the world is such a shame. Use protection, then you won't have to kill a baby! Just my opinion! ~Peace~

Answer 6

That's really heading off the problem at the gate. How about some kind of genetic test where we can find out who is more likely to have an abortion - while they're still only a fetus - and just abort them? That way, no more abortions... except for the first few million.

But, hey, if you want to make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs.

Answer 7

I totally agree with u. U make a very good point and I think that people should have a choice. The example that I like to use is what if a woman was rapped and that resulted in pregnancy? Now how many woman out there would honestly want to have a baby from someone that hurt them and forced them to have sex with them when they didn't want to. I know I sure wouldn't therefore abortion would be my choice.

Answer 8

Why are you so worried about it?
when I am disturbed, it is because i find some person, place, thing or situation-some fact of life- unacceptable to me, and I can find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment. unless I accept life completely on life's terms, I cannot be happy. I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what need to be changed in me and in my attitudes,

Answer 9

i think because life doesn't happen until they come together.... an egg by itself wont become a human nor a sperm