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Exodus 21:22 clearly makes an unborn child the property of its father and not a person. Killing an unborn child is a crime only against the parents, and is not as just hitting and not seriously injuring your parents. It clearly says that a fetus does NOT count as a person, so why to people hold up the bible as evidence that abortion is murder?

2006-08-31 09:00:25 · 49 answers · asked by xfallenangelstearsx 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Clearly? Yes it is. I fail to see how your eyes are so fogged. With all this abundance of clarity.

Ex 21:21
If, however he survives, a day or two, no vengeance will be taken, for he is his property.
(benefit of doubt was given to the slaveholder, where no homicidal intentions could be proved)

Ex 21:22
"If men struggle with each other and cause and strike a woman with a child so that she gives birth prematurely, yet there is no injury, he shall surly be fined as the woman's husband many demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide.".

Ex 21:23
But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty of life for life".
(21-23): (any further injury to mother or child).

(Duet: 19:21. This so called law of retaliation, as its context show, was meant to limit the punishment to fit the crime. By invoking the law of love, Jesus corrected the popular misunderstanding of the law of retaliation. "Matt 5:38-42". (Lev 24:20)


Don't read 1 verse and take it the way you need to have it fit your needs.
Where is the word "fetus"?
Where does this say..a "fetus" is not a person?
Where does this say most anything you even suggest it implies?

State Laws on Abortion, in regards to Funeral Home Directors, by: The Department of Human Services.

It is wrong even according too man.

1.) When a fetus weighs 11.3 ounces, or 20 weeks of term, whichever comes first. The baby dies, it has to have a Birth Certification and Death Certificate.

2.) When a fetus is less than 350 Grams and dies, it needs a Fetus Death Certificate.

3.) A fetus/baby is a live human being after it meets the above criteria, according too law.

4.) a nonlife needs no Death Certificate. [ It had to be a Life, to be declared dead.]

5.) A baby is a live human being even according too man, and will remain so, until man's law changes.

6.) By man's own definition as too Life: You tell me who is contradicting themselves.

7.) A fetus/baby is a live human being at conception, according to God, and will remain that way until YOU or someone else proves with the Word of GOD, that it isn't.

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2006-08-31 09:32:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

The passage you have quoted clearly says the exact opposite to that which you claim. At the very least, it must be read with the next verse to gain a fuller understanding:

Exo 21:22-23
If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, .... (KJV)

These verses describe a situation where a pregnant woman might try to break up a fight between men, a pregnant woman in those day's was able to do so very easliy because of this very law. If as a result of the "strife" a woman is struck and her baby departs from her but neither the woman nor the child is injured, then the nature of the punishment for this serious offense is at the discretion of the husband. But if either the womans or the child's life is lost (i.e. that mischief follows) then the punishment is automatically as it would be for murder, a life for a life.

Clearly then the verse quoted gives the unborn child all of the rights accorded to any other person. So in answer to your question, the very verse quoted by you is just such a verse confering "person" status upon a fetus.

2006-08-31 09:44:30 · answer #2 · answered by movedby 5 · 1 0

no Missy, it does NOT say a fetus does not count as a person. In verse 22 it says if there is no serious injury, the one who harms the unborn child (not fetus) will pay what the father determines, but it goes on in verse 23 to say if there is serious injury it should be repayed as hand for hand, eye for eye and life for life! and yes maam, abortion is cruel, senseless, inhuman, murder, and it's barbaric ripping the little bodies apart. What is worse than that? If the courts tried a horrible mass murderer and sentenced him to death by ripping someones arms and legs off, we'd have a jillion liberals screaming bloody murder, but they don't even squeak if it's a defensless baby.

2006-08-31 09:16:13 · answer #3 · answered by Grandma Susie 6 · 4 0

Ex 21:22 "If adult males combat, and harm a woman with newborn, so as that she provides beginning upfront, yet no harm follows, he shall easily be punished subsequently because of the fact the girl's husband imposes on him; and he shall pay because of the fact the judges be certain. Ex 21:23 "yet while any harm follows, then you definitely shall supply existence for existence, in case you will see that verse 22 would not say how upfront the beginning is. She might desire to easily be 3 or 4 weeks pregnant and made to miscarry and it continues to be a beginning and in verse 23 while it says a existence for a existence that's speaking of the youngster's existence additionally and not purely the mothers. no remember what the Bible says human beings will nevertheless see regardless of they decide to be certain.

2016-11-06 04:08:47 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Women are also generally property in the Bible as well, so really how would a woman have "a right to choose" if she is just a thing - a piece of property? I mean, can a piece of property really think for itself? No. So the whole "right to life" thing makes no sense in the Bible because clearly peices of property have no "rights" anyhow!

Granted, I'm being facetious, but that's what we get for following "a book of rules of ancient date designed to make us all feel real great while we bash smash and mutilate the unbelieving scum from the neighboring state."

2006-09-01 10:48:51 · answer #5 · answered by Cheshire Cat 6 · 0 0

I believe that a woman can chose when to have a child but when she gets pregnant even by accident I don't think she has the right to kill it. That fetus, that unborn child inside is alive, he is part of you, even if it's an accident, that child is the purest living form of human. Think of how many women can't have children and that you are lucky that you are the one chosen to bare him. He may grow up to be a good scientist, maybe save a lot of human lives, or even find a cure for AIDS or cancer. You have to see that this is destiny not an accident, after he is inside it shouldn't be your choice to make anymore.

2006-08-31 11:35:24 · answer #6 · answered by Faust 5 · 0 0

Personally, my hesitations on the matter aren't religious. I have yet to see any sort of scientific proof that a fetus isn't a person, and until I do I'd rather err on the side of not killing anybody. To offer the other side of that argument, which amendment in the bill of rights confers women with the Freedom of Choice? I just don't see the convenience of avoiding unexpected motherhood to be worth the risk of terminating a sentient person. Especially when there are so many willing adoptive parents in our country.

2006-08-31 09:10:35 · answer #7 · answered by Beardog 7 · 3 0

Remember that a fetus if left alone, develops into a baby. If a baby is left alone it develops into a child and a child into an adult and an adult into a parent of many humans.

When you stop a fetus, you stop the process.

Slaves were considered property of the slave owners. Does that make them any less human? The comparison is not correct.

As soon as the egg and the sperm join, a process begins, which continues in a systematic pattern all the way until it ends in the death of the human that is created in that process. It does go through many stages.

In the old days if you killed a slave by mistake, you did not receive death penalty. If you killed a free man, you did. Does that make the slave any less human?

I hope this makes sense to you.

2006-08-31 09:09:06 · answer #8 · answered by NQV 4 · 5 1

Tha Was Im Old Times, Letrs Dont Forget That We Live In A New World and We Are All Gods Children So We ARe Brothers And Sisters And Today Most Of The Churches Are For Makin Money

2006-08-31 09:10:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

hello...you don't need the bible to say "fetus" is a person or human being unless if the mother is not OK during pregnancy, then she should abortion but If she is good, well the fetus has a right to live.
I also know abortion is good for people who don't have enough money to keep the baby alive but Why don't they give the fetus another chance to live? Or give him to churches that can raise him or her.
DO YOU LIKE KILLING PEOPLE OR CHILDREN, WELL THAT'S WHAT ABORTION IS DOING. KILLING MILLIONS OF CHILDREN IN A DAY. Who know if that baby is going to become a president or someone famous but if you killed him you are taking his chances away from him.

2006-08-31 09:21:37 · answer #10 · answered by guilty 2 · 3 1

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