Why don't you understand that Muslims are simply Fulfilled and True Christians?

Question

"Why don't you understand that Muslims are simply Fulfilled and True Christians"

Does this statement bother you? Do you find it insulting? Do you find it ridiculous?

Well, how do you think Jews feel when someone makes the incredibly stupid statement that jews who believe in jesus are "fulfilled" or "completed" or "true" jews?

http://www.JewsForJudaism.org

I am actually impressed with the sheer stupidity of some of the answers. It seems that the point of the question simply flew by miles above them. It's scary that someone could be that stupid and insensitive.

Answer 1

You are right, Islam and Real Christianity has come from the same God with same believes. So a true Muslim is a true Christian ( the way it was originally ) as well.

Answer 2

cause everyone has different opinions and different understandings.

Some people understand that Muslims don't believe Jesus resurrected, while others understand that Muslims believed that the death of Christ was actually just an illusion made by God.

On the other spectrum, people also have different ideas to what makes a Christian. Some believe a Christian is somehow who follows the teachings of Jesus and spread his love. While others believe that you must believe in the trinity, be baptised, etc just to be a Christian.

Because of these different ideas of what Muslims actually believe and what makes a Christian, we are all filled with different ideas of what a Muslim is and how they aren't Christians.

Answer 3

The true answer is that if we think deeply, it should not bother anyone that if Muslims, Jews or Christians believe in their faith what will happen to them. What really matter is that the one who believes in particular faith is wheather following it well and planned to go to heaven according to his faith. Even this should be a matter at individual level. All three faiths think that followers of other faith will not go to heaven no matter what. They have basic differences and those differences could not be solved in thousands of year then what is the chance it will solve now? If there won't be any religious persecution ( going on for centuries) then different people won't come up with these oxymoron ideas. Their was a true wisdom behind seperating church from state. Now as people are mixing it again they are seeing all these problems and religious persecution and extremism in all three faiths.

I am a big believer in peace and peaceful existance of all faiths. However, I disagree with this concept of combining any two or three religions. The difference is quite in their core.

Islamic view is that Jews are waiting for their Savior in Israel. However, their savior was Jesus ( peace be upon him) who has already come. Essentially all Jews should have followed him which they did not. Islamic view about Jesus is that he was the prophet of Allah who has not been killed by Jews by instead taken by Allah to the skies ?? and will return one day to fight the final war between believers and non-believers. This may seem closer to Christanity but in reallity its not. Muslim do not believe that Allah shares his powers with anyone. They believe everyone except Allah is destroyable ( or in other word will die). Their concept of Believers in not just limited to one who admits that their is God! This concepts also requires that Allah is absolute and only. No one shares his power. He has all the rights, all the power and he is the more merciful. More merciful than we can imagine. Muslims do not believer that Allah has any son or any father. Because if you attach the concept of procreation ( different than creator) with anyone, then next quesiton comes who created the father? Concept of creation in itself signifies the mortality. It means things or creatures procreate ( or have off springs ) becasue they will stop existing one day so they need their off springs to carry on their linege. Allah is above that all. He has been there for ever and will remain forever!!

So you can see, its not possible to combine these faiths and I do agree with your question.

Answer 4

Jews for Jesus are not Jews! They are Christians. And, I get upset when they say they have just carried Judaism into the next level.

Muslims are Muslims, And, I think it very condescending to say they are fulfilled Christians. Islam makes much more sense than Christianity.

G-d is One! Christians do not follow the basic rule in their religion. They say G-d is three.

Answer 5

In my personal view as a Muslim, a Jew for Jesus is worse than any gentile who calls a man a god, as he throws away the diamond of monotheism and picks up a soft rock of adding partners to god, that will literally melt in his hand.

Jewish people were taught Monotheism like no one else. It was meant to be grinded into their very being and many Jews paid a terrible price in the process. A Jewish man who turns from monotheism and becomes a Jew for Jesus is worse than any other human I can imagine, as he or she benefitted from the misery of the Jews over the centuries and YET, threw it away and adopted a path that is convenient today!!

If I was not a Muslim, I know deep in my heart I would be a Jew. If someone forced me leave my faith, the only religion I can turn to is Judaism!!

I can not understand why the Jews for Jesus folks do not understand such a basic thing. Anyone who prays to a man-god is not only insulting the Holy One but also make light of the grand monotheists who paid many a terrible price to keep monotheism alive under the most trying of times!!

Before I pray to a man-god, I would rather the Lord crush me into smithereens, before I worship a man, may the Lord destroy my very existence as that is better than putting another on the Seat of the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL!! May the Lord destroy my generations should they turn to other than the Lord MOST HIGH, THE ONE, THE ONE, THE ONE!! ,

Blessed be the Lord of Hosts. THE EMPEROR OF EMPERORS, The Lofty One of Israel, the Great Creator of Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Mohammad. Amen!!

Answer 6

I completely agree with your position. This "Messianic Judaism" isn't Judaism at all, it's Christianity mixed with Jewish customs. They wear kippot. They read from Torah scrolls. They go to synagogues instead of churches. It's so intricately deceiving that they get the practitioners into believing they're Jewish. But they're Christians. The founder of "Jews for Jesus" (an organization I deeply resent) is an ordained Baptist minister who proclaims himself to be a rabbi. There is a quote from a Reform rabbi, "Any one who says Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew, but an apostate". I couldn't agree more. I'm not Jewish myself, but I can't stand it when Christians try to "save" Jews. I believe all Jews are already saved.

P.S. -- I think you might like the website www.messiahtruth.com.
It refutes all the common Christian arguments, and then some.

Answer 7

Muslims are not simply fulfilled true christians. Muslims pray 5 times a day to a dead god allah and follow a dead prophet mohammed. Similar, I suppose, to praying 5 times a day to a telephone pole and following a pig. The big problem, though, is that they believe they have to convert, subject, or kill all of the rest of us. Jews that believe in Jesus do not become ''true jews"; that's just people meeting their needs to feel superior to other people. The statement you made does not bother me or insult me or even strike me as rediculous, but if Muslims try to convert me I will refuse, if they try to subject me, I will escape, and if they try to kill me I will shoot back.

Answer 8

Yes and No. Muslims believe they posses the final revelation of God (The Quran). And follow Jesus and the prophets of old. But Jews tend to think it stops with them (Moses) and Christians believes it stops with them (Jesus) and Muslims believe it stops with them (Muhammad). Moreover, Muslims believe God made us different on purpose to test us with what he has sent down. Most Jews, Christian, and Muslims don't realize how 'similar' their religions are in respect to each other. Respecting others' religions and being open minded doesn't mean you're putting your faith at jeopardy. Unfortunately, people like to exalt in what they have and shun anything they don't recognize. That's a sign of weakness.
*Religious Tolerance*

Answer 9

Muslims say that the building that was built by Abraham, Moses, Jesus and other prophets, Muhammad put the last brick in it. Muslims believe the Christ to be a great prophet of God. They believe that he is going to come back some day.
It does not matter who believes in what. Its between the God and the people. They say if you hurt people then its between you and the people. I think God can forgive you for your beliefs but not for your actions. I believe its human to do small sins but big sins are satanic like taking someone's life.

Answer 10

Christians are named that because they follow Christ (thus the name Christ-ian). Muslims are reading from a book that was written by someone who hear the words taught about the great prophet predicted and then came forward saying that he had had a revelation and he was the one. They are decieved. Jesus was proven to be the Messiah by the things written in the OT that he fulfilled.
Jews for Jesus are a group of people who have realized that Jesus is the Messiah and believe in Him. They are Christians.

Answer 11

No, the statement does not bother me. But something is bothering you, obviously.

It is not insulting or ridiculous. It is a little confusing, though.

If the "completed Jews" comment bothers you, ignore the people who say it.

The issue seems so obscure, it shouldn't be hard to ignore. Just an opinion, chill out. Don't get your shorts all bunched up.