OK who here is a native Briton and has done poorly paid work?

Question

So we "need" imigrants because we natives are too "proud" to work in factories, pubs, McDonalds, as care assistants, cleaners etc.

I'm a native Briton with a University degree. I have done pub work, waitressing, cleaning and shop work when I needed to and there was nothing else.

My BF is trained mechanic as due to a shortage of jobs in the field is working as a barman on minimum wage.

I know LOADS of native Britons who are hospital cleaners, van drivers, bar staff, care assistants, work in MaccyD's etc. Most of them would prefer to earn £150-£200 a week in this way than scrape by on £59.50 dole a week.

Plus they stop your dole if you "refuse" work.

Any other "natives" who have done this kind of work? I know I can't be alone!!!

What I meant by "native Britons" is people who were born here and their parents were, and have not just "come off the boat" so to speak. Anyway, as I'm Welsh I think I'm as close to a native as there is left in this country!

Answer 1

me to i've done lots of poorley paid work from cleaning to pot washing we definatly dont need immigrants. theres enough of this kind of work for native britons

Answer 2

I'm a 'native' and i work in a low paid job which i actually quite enjoy for a number of reasons. I work alongside other British people who do need these jobs as their literacy/ability makes this the only work that they can do, or like me, they don't want any responsibility. However, we also have worked alongside visitors(usually graduates) from other countries and I love to hear stories of their homelands and customs. They also have a lot more interesting conversation than the locals that I work with.
I find few locals who try to avoid employment compared to a decade ago - things have tightened up. But I do think that a quota system should be put on immigration simply because the indigenous population are becoming seriously worried (rightly or wrongly) about becoming a minority in their own land.

Answer 3

Im a 'native' and yes, i've done crap work. Ive screwed lids on bottles, packed boxes and stuck labels onto bottles of dishwasher. I hated every minute of it.

However, our country does need these immigrants. Why? The sad fact is people, some of us are too damn idle or poorly-educated to work. The vast majority of immigrants are intelligent, hard-working and come here to make a better life for themselves.

Also, the sorry fact is, alot of these unskilled jobs are disappearing. I live in the Midlands, near Birmingham, and my area has been a ghost town since Thatcherism took hold. Their simply are no jobs going around here.

Anyway, their are no native Britons left. The Romans wiped them out. This is an immigrant nation, remember that, these people will come wether you like it or not, and closed borders are not the answer

Answer 4

A Native Briton, haha, nice one.
immigration is used at anytime the government or big business decide that the cost of employing , so called Native british labour, costs too much. i.e. They don't want to pay what you can actually live on without sleeping ten to a room and everyone eating out of a great big pot in the middle of the room. And that is the same in America or anywhere else.
Poorly paid work is inevitable if you have no skills or experience.
And if you have just left school you have both, congratulations and welcome to the world of work.
Or get your **** back in college, and study a degree that is useful, and not one in Star trek , or Media studies.

Answer 5

No, no no! Have you been reading the tabloids? Stay away from that sensationalist crap. We need migrants because without them we would be a population in decline, and being big fat capitalists we need constant economic growth for which we need more jobs and people to do them! Yeah, I've done that kind of work. The worst one had to be hozing down milking equipment between cows while being shat on from all sides. But that's because it was all I could get, with the hours I needed (4:30 in the damn morning, because I was still at school). If you know loads of Britons who would rather work in Maccy Ds than scrape by on the dole, why are all these shops and services always desperate for staff? If you refuse work, you should have your dole stopped. If they find you work you could do instead of sitting about, then do it. Cleaning the cow crap was far less demeaning than being on the dole. We are not too proud to do alot of these jobs. We just won't bloody do it. Also, we don't just need migrants for unskilled labour, we are short on skilled labour too, in evrything from traditional trades (plumbers, carpenters etc) right up to surgeons and rocket scientists. We need them badly. If you got a university degree, how many of your professors were not native Britons? I have 2 MScs in chemistry, and loads of mine were. And they were great. Would not have been the same without them. I couldn't have finished my MRes research without the help of a Russian named Boris. Immigrants are driving us forward, and don't forget that. If you want to go back to a time without immigration, you'd have to go back thousands of years. I myself am descended from immigrants, and though I make no assumptions, you almost certainly are too, as are most of the 'native' population. It's just a question of how far back you can go. Please don't believe the hype. You know what? I am awlays asking people who read the tabloids what country they think gives the highest proportion of illegal immigrants to the UK, ie people who are here without permission, and not one of them has ever got it right. What are you thinking? Albania? Iraq? No, it is the USA. Do you read that in the tabloids? Of course not, because that isn't sensationalist hype, and it wouldn't sell papers. Come on, use that university degree.

Answer 6

I have done low paid work. As recently as 2004 I was working 35 hours a week for £5 per hour.

We don't need immigrants. What we need is to do is force people who can to work for their benefit money (community work etc). They will soon realise that they can spend the same amount of time doing a job and earn more money.

Immigration should be stopped. Our jails are overcrowded with immigrants and ethnic minorities. They should all be deported to the country of their roots if they break the law here.

We certainly don't need hundreds of thousands of European immigrants who only come here for the benefits.

Answer 7

I have. I was a sucessful commercial artist until I was made redundant in the early 1990's. I ended up on Income Support and eventually found my way back into part time employment with a well known high street retailer of goods working for national minimum wage. All my colleagues there were white British and some in the same financial position as me. I did not see one immigrant in sight. What do we need them for now?

Answer 8

I have worked on a conveyor belt, cleaned cars, cleaned offices, cleaned toilets, been a receptionist on minimum wages, was a Mother's help for six months and worked in other places for minimum wages.

At other times I have held down jobs with a million pounds budget and had responsible positions.

Now I do an all round management, catering, cleaning, driving and educational role - I am a mum.

Answer 9

my first job was for a supermarket and i worked for 2.12 per hour (before the days of minimum wage)

Dole isnt exactly scraping by. Me and my mate worked it out that with housing benefit and paid for dental costs etc you would need a job paying 17k in order to be better off. Plus as a former jobcentre worker i can honestly say that its dead easy to blag out of looking for work within the system.

There is the reason we need migrant workers, a lot of people simply dont want to work nor have an incentive to work!

Answer 10

I was a waitress, chambermaid, care assistant, factory worker etc. etc. from the age of 16 to earn extra money for the weekends and then afterwards to pay my way through uni. Pretty much all my friends did the same. I don't think it's much to do with pride, more necessity!

Answer 11

I have been a waitress, cleaner, petrol pump attendant, shop assistant, office junior,bar staff and other temporary low-paid jobs, and I'm British, some of these jobs were to help me get through uni.Got a well paid job now. but never too proud to work at any job so i could pay my way.