If religion becomes the basis of our government, then we are no longer a democracy, but a theocracy. You can see how well it works over in Iran and various Middle Eastern Countries.
And to Dan the Car man, I beg to differ on your interpretation of the first amendment. Aparently you've been brainwashed by the religious reich to believe some of their lies. The first amendment DOES keep religion out of government.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (in other words, no laws that have anything to do with shoving religion on anyone, or creating a state church),
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (there are not to be any laws banning religious faith or practice);
2006-08-31 01:59:30
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answered by ravencadwell 3
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I am disgusted that anyone would want to have a state religion/belief system...that would make the USA then no better than those Islamist nations (like Iran and Saudi Arabia) which have Islam as their virtual and legal state religion.
Faith/belief systems and morality, this I approve and will fight for...but to have a government impose on me what to believe...that people leads to theocracy...which I oppose for the simple reason that the word of God (or whatever system you follow) can be twisted by the minds of evil men in power. Once that happens only a miracle can stop them.
To Dan the Car man...I understand where you are coming from but you would be also ignorant of world history if you never knew how abusive and stupid popes and many religious leaders have been throughout history when it came to their meddling in politics...remember the Inqusition and them stupid witch trials??? And this comes from a faithful Catholic Christian who's seen and read too much.
2006-08-31 02:06:28
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answered by betterdeadthansorry 5
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Our founding Fathers did not want a national church , though there was a discussion on it. but was decided that a state church would have to much power. also saw how state run Church's forgot about Jesus Christ and ended up aligning themselves with the government. they had given up preaching Jesus.
the Fathers believed that people of faith were the only way to have an upright government. that is why they put freedom of religion as our first right. they were not afraid to enact laws and rulings using Jesus name . John Jay as a judge had a man whom was found guilty of murder. from the bench he told the man that he need Jesus as Savior and if the man wanted the John jay would come to prison. and tell him about Jesus. now we have judges threating high schoolers for the mention of Jesus in school. read this quote by John Adams, if you look around he was absoulte right.
John Adams.
we have no government armed in power capable of contendind with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.
again our founding Fathers based this nation on the bible( actually the God of the bible.) . with the belief that people of faith would be best suited to lead the nation and that people of faith should be the great majority of the country. there is a book out called Under God written by Toby Mac and Michael Tait. has many great quotes and letters from our founding Fathers on their vision of the USA.
2006-08-31 02:50:48
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answered by rap1361 6
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Hmm... in the case of multicultural and democratic society like the US the issues surrounding religion and state are far more complex than stated here.
No one religion is in control of the US government, although it may seem that one way because of George Bushes comments every now and then. Do you think that the entire republican party is made up of more conservative christians like Bush? The answer is no. A significant proportion of the republicans are jewish. Hence US support in Israel.
The fact is, republicans (who are are followers of many beliefs) in a cleverly designed marketing ploy, uses the smoke screen of christianity in order to appeal to the American public and to get across policy ideas in a way that is consistent with christian values.
Alternatively, when necessary, the republican party might try and raise support and improve their ratings in the polls by focusing their attention on the issues their core supporters are concerned about, such as gay marriage.
Anyway, judiasm is your answer..
2006-08-31 01:59:36
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answered by MrSandman 5
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I think religion should be a personal thing. But when you elect someone they should have some life guiding belief so you know who you're electing. You're actually electing a set of beliefs not a person and if the person has no religion or some kind of principles, then you are getting 'a pig in a poke' as they used to say. A religion is no good if you don't live it in your daily life; but the government has no right to force any belief on everyone. I'm Catholic, but I remember the inquisitions, torturing people into being holy? I don't know a religion I would want controlling everything.
2006-08-31 01:47:38
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answered by doktordbel 5
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Unitarian Universalism. The precepts are the closest I could get; if I had to choose:
Direct experience of that transcending mystery and wonder, affirmed in all cultures, which moves us to a renewal of the spirit and an openness to the forces which create and uphold life;
Words and deeds of prophetic women and men which challenge us to confront powers and structures of evil with justice, compassion, and the transforming power of love;
Wisdom from the world's religions which inspires us in our ethical and spiritual life.
God's love by loving our neighbors as ourselves;
Humanist teachings which counsel us to heed the guidance of reason and the results of science, and warn us against idolatries of the mind and spirit.
Spiritual teachings of earth-centered traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of nature.
This religion comes the very closest to representing my core beliefs. Some members of my extended family are Unitarians.
2006-08-31 02:01:20
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answered by Anonymous
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The separation of church and state is a heresy (Americanism).
Democracy is also close to heresy since it says all power comes from the people, all power comes from God through Christ through His Church, hence the Chuch has higher authority than the state.
Let the pope ratify the next President.
2006-08-31 02:05:15
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answered by carl 4
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NO religion should control anything. Religion should be there for spiritual fulfillment, not for control and governance. If you can't feel free and complete in your religion, you cannot be anywhere.
More to the point, if history's tought us anything, religion and the church, in any form or name, should stay out of politics. Look at the crusades, look at the library of Alexandria, look at the Byzantines, look at the Jyhad and 9/11.
2006-08-31 01:47:19
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answered by Derek K 2
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Why go from one man-made belief to another? The Lord said that our good works are like 'filthy rags upon His feet'....I think He is accepting of our attempts to worship Him and knowing how we sin He is very forgiving in our attempts to be closer to Him. I also think that our gov't as flawed as it may be is the best on the earth and to make it better we can only work within the system. You see, we only have ourselves to rely on.....God has influenced us but we make the choices.
2006-08-31 02:47:04
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answered by miatalise12560 6
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I don't support ANY religion controlling this country. EVER. If your religion forbids a thing, don't YOU do it, but don't you try to force those beliefs into my life either. Religion does not hold a copyright on morality. If you don't like something I am doing, turn around and walk away.
2006-08-31 01:57:14
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answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6
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