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Christians are always saying that they are the majority in this country so they have the right to push their religion in schools, government, and on society as a whole. Doesn't the constitution protects us from that? Shouldn't we all embrace the intent of that wonderful document; to put all of us on a level playing field and to provide liberty to all people, even a minority?

2006-08-30 17:47:21 · 32 answers · asked by Mere Mortal 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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We need to get our terms straight. What you mean to say is "Why do Thumpers always..." That way, no one can be offended that you are lumping them into a broad category, since they would first have to admit to being a Thumper. Thumpers are, by definition, the group of fundamentalist evangelical Christians you are referring to.

And yes, you are right. Thumpers frequently insist that because most Americans are (or claim to be) Christians, we should go ahead and make the US an official theocracy which embraces their personal brand of fundamentalist evangelical Christianity.

It is not the seperation clause that protects us from these nutjobs, but rather the rights of the minority. So the reason we don't allow prayer in public schools isn't so much that the state is pushing a religion (although that's defninitely part of it), but that those students who are not Christians but are still required to attend public school will be ostracized for being "different". There's far too much of that as it is, we don't need any new ways of dividing kids into minority groups.

2006-08-30 18:13:41 · answer #1 · answered by abram.kelly 4 · 1 0

Why do you make sweeping generalizations about what Christians say or think...how do you know? Its obvious to me in so many ways the the liberal majority is far more in control in this country than any moral minority. If it were so then there would be no abortion, there would prayer in school, religious symbols and Bible concepts would be allowed to be posted in the public square, creationism would be taught in school and so forth..however, as it stands..most Christians believe in the Constitution and support it. As well, they manage their lives quite nicely without spending nearly as much time and effort concerned with forcing their religion or concepts on other people..except and in where it alters their livelyhood, family or personal rights. There are more Christians out there having thier rights violated in the work place and in descrimination than is ever reported in the media. The moral majority should rule in this country...its a matter of being represented..but that is not how it works. The minority in this country would have our children checking out pornography at the local library and smoking pot on the school bus. So go figure. ~J~ <><

2006-08-30 18:01:41 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

regardless of number, there is the first amendment ,
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


In other words, no they cannot force their faith on anyone. Not legally, anyways.
I also want to address the innacuracies put forward here by some rather brainwashed and misinformed people.
IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO PRAY OR TALK ABOUT "GOD" IN SCHOOL!
AMERICA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION (IT WAS NOT FOUNDED BY "CHRISTIAN MEN")

And the first amendment does not allow churches or religion to use to government to enforce their will upon the public. At that point the US is no longer a democracy, but a theocracy.

2006-08-30 18:02:58 · answer #3 · answered by ravencadwell 3 · 1 0

Joe on drums:

"Love? Peace? Joy? Honor? Compassion? Understanding? Kindness? Gentleness?"

That may be the stuff that you, as a brainwashed and only seeing the positives of your religion, see... however, being on the other end of religion, even as a christian with different beliefs, you will see more of the 'real' side of what the religious want to do to those who don't see the world exactly as they do.

And boy, is it ugly and intolerant.

2006-08-30 17:58:41 · answer #4 · answered by the master of truth 4 · 3 0

lol that is fairly humorous! i became into taking a adolescence progression class in college years in the past, and between the flaws it particularly mentions is to "by no ability tell the youngster 'wait until your father/mom gets homestead." while the instructor asked us if it ever surpassed off in our homes, the lady next to me reported her mom were doing it for years, yet her dad hasn't come homestead yet. we don't try this during our homestead nevertheless. My son thinks the two me and Mr Dawna are the two evil.

2016-12-17 20:06:50 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

it is true that the Christian population has the highest percentage in this nation. (in one form or another...) i do not know the exact percentile, but lets say that it is 62%. but out of those, 15% (of the 62%) believe,for example, that abortion is OK, 4%(of the 62%) think that same sex marriage is OK, 50% (of the 62%) believe that drinking (in moderation) is OK...are you beginning to see my point?...for every Christian that holds one view there are two that believe otherwise. i, being a christian, believe that i am in the minority. The Bible says to "...work out your own salvation..." this is my stance. it is not up to me to convince someone who believes differently than i that i am right. it is on them and whoever they call God..even though i am confident that i am right....i took the long route in answering your question...bottom line: "we" have no right to push our views on anybody...."no one comes to the Father unless directed by the Holy Spirit..." Don't let the Christian (s) who have left you with this impression cause you to judge, just like they have...as Christians go "They" are in the minority....

2006-08-30 18:06:27 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Christians aren't the majority. Check your statistics. The constitution gives us separation of church and state, but it also gives us the right of freedom of speech, among others. We can talk about gays all day long, and push it on the kids in public schools, so why can't we talk about Christianity in Public schools? or in the courthouse, etc. Freedom of religion is just that, freedom so exercise your constitutional liberties and don't worry about other people.

2006-08-30 17:52:28 · answer #7 · answered by breaker_1020 2 · 2 2

Why do you think people are pushing thier religion on you? I think it's the other way around. The media is pushing their no rules, open-mindedness, liberal thinking on us all the time. Look at you - it worked!

You have your free agency don't you? Nobody's MAKING you do anything. God's plan was for us to have our free agency and it was so important that we have free agency/ freedom to choose good or bad, that God lets us suffer the consequences of our choices. Who's side are you on? God's? If your not on God's side and for his plan, then you are on Satan's side because you are working against God. Don't you see that?

I just got back from a trip to Russia. You should see what 80 years of "being equal" did to those people and as a country. It's called Communism and it didn't work.

Sorry, buddy, but your life is BETTER because you benifit from the good Christians around you. Prove to me that it's not.

2006-08-30 18:05:07 · answer #8 · answered by HowdyTracy 1 · 0 2

i dont. so your "always" theory is wrong, the first thing out of your mouth....keyboard...whatever.

as for the constitutional ban on religion, dont buy into that, or try to sell it as fact. that is a false, VERY FALSE, statement.

what the constitution does is ban the GOVERNMENT from creating a government controlled church. nowhere in the constitution is there edict that says that the governement cannot allow religious activities on government land or in governement offices.

even the supreme court who upholds most of these mythical bans, begins each day with a prayer to God and so does the congress and senate.

-eagle

2006-08-30 17:55:38 · answer #9 · answered by eaglemyrick 4 · 4 1

I don't agree with anyone pushing their beliefs on others. But our nation was founded on a belief in God and it's only in today's society that it is being removed. The seperation from church and state was to keep the state out of the church, not the other way around. It's fine to have your own freedom to choose, but when we start changing the pledge and removing our history because it's not "politically correct" that is just wrong. Everyone has the freedom of choice to believe what they want to believe and no one should "push" their beliefs on others, but sharing your beliefs with the intent to enlighten others should be acceptable.

2006-08-30 17:58:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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