Brainwashing question for atheists and agnostics and evolutionists?

Question

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Is this person's question philosophically unnassailable? Is evolution just a science fiction?

With logic like this, why do we mock God and Christians?

Or, are we not brainwashed, because of things like evidence and repeatable scientific expiriments.

Answer 1

Whether we were ceated by a superior being, or evolved from particles; there exists evidence of our beginnings and of our makeup. The evidence that a creationist seeks will exist in a different form and will be measured with different tools, than the evidence of evolutionists.

Evidence of God is subjective. It is also personal, since society has no official criteria for recognizing God.
We created science. It's just one way of understanding things; based on predetermined methods. It is this agreement about what we will accept as truth that gives science its credibility.
It also limits science because the universe must be made to fit our measuring cup.

It's a little harsh to call someone brainwashed when they don't agree with you. And, calling someones philosophy, "science fiction", is a very weak and unoriginal insult.
That is evidence of this persons lack of creativity and possibly intelligence. Based on the lack of evidence, indicating that this person has relevant life experience and/or wisdom, we have to discount all this persons comments on the grounds that there is no proof that he/she(?) can walk and chew gum at the same time. Hee Hee.

Answer 2

Evolution - science or fiction?

Has any experiment been done to prove it - okay breeding fruit flies with more hairs, but they quickly reverted back and it never produced a new species. All it proved was that the species are malleable, but we already know that: eat a lot and you get fat, exercise and your muscles grow, spend too much time on the computer and your eyesight goes bad...In all the years of dog breeding has a new species ever been produced - no.

Then there are the bones - fossils - all that proves is that many species existed in the past some of which are not seen now.

Mutation produces more of what's already there - e.g. an extra finger, or less of something - hands but no arms. In medical records has mutation ever produced something new and useful?

If a rat were to mutate gradually to a bat, in between it would have neither decent wings nor decent legs - pretty unfit to survive. And if it were a new species it would have to find another rat that mutated in the same way to mate with. Not a good recipee for survival.

Most people probably don't want think about evolution in much depth - besides if you don't accept it you are considered irrational, subhuman, mentally retarted etc. So they go with the flow. But truth is not democratic - just because many people believe it doesn't make it true.

Some people may argue that in spite of it's serious flaws it's the best we've got so why knock it? Well, if I've lost my keys at night in the driveway, then I guess the best thing would be to look for them in the garage where it's light....duh.

Answer 3

Evolution is a scientific theory like any other scientific theory. If it can be proved wrong, we'll have to find another one. However, nobody has yet proven it wrong.

Brainwashing, on the other hand, is a specific process, which is not about presenting people with coherent arguments and evidence, but about shoving the same stuff in their face over and over again until they believe in what you tell them to believe because you haven't given them any alternatives. That sounds to me a lot closer to the way some religions behave, than the books on science that I've read.

I don't personally mock God and Christians - well, not all Christians, and not in public. One of the biggest geniuses ever, Johann Sebastian Bach, was a serious Christian. Doesn't stop me loving his music. I just don't like people waving their ignorance at me and calling it a higher wisdom.

Answer 4

Reality and brainwashing are very easy to distinguish when it comes to creation and religion.

If we assume the universe was created, then it’s reasonable to assume there was a creator. That’s as far as science has progressed today, but just look how far religion has progressed.

Religion states (fact) there was a creator called God, that God still exists, God also created places called Heaven & Hell, God wrote an instruction book called the Bible, God will banish evil people to Hell, God will send good people who follow the Bible to heaven, that people referred to in the Bible (like Jesus) will return to Earth, and a whole raft of other statements of fact. That’s right, religious fact, not assumptions.

Now tell me truthfully, if science doesn’t even know yet whether the universe was created or not, but religious believers state: “not only was the universe created by God, here’s a whole lot more proof and facts to go with it, what do you think?

Either religious believers just have vivid imaginations or suffer from a common mental illness. I think commonsense and logic would suggest that religious believers are mentally handicapped.

So what's reality and what is the result of brainwashing over the years. I think it's pretty clear to any intelligent person.

Answer 5

i'm an atheist (there is not any such ingredient as an 'evolutionist') I easily have a historic past in technological know-how and engineering. like the link says, it somewhat is in elementary terms a sculpture made to reserve by using Joe Taylor. there is not any certainly information to describe here. it somewhat is not any longer an certainly fossil, it somewhat is in elementary terms a synthetic artifact (or a non secular icon). it somewhat is not any longer an precise representation of a femur from a humanoid biped that became 14-sixteen ft tall. As an organism will become steadily greater the bone shape must be extra physically powerful with a view to have sufficient structural potential to hold the burden. A femur from a real residing good sized of that scale might pick to be virtually two times as thick using fact the single depicted - or it would shatter under the load of the physique that it became donning. i think that the sculptor basically scaled up a typical human femur, somewhat than enhancing the size to thickness ratio accurately.

Answer 6

When I read the question from the link you posted I could do nothing but laugh. There aren't words...

A Christian thinking that Atheists, Agnostics, and Evolutionists are the ones that are brain washed? Ha... We have evidence to back our beliefs other than a fictional book. We have more than just blind faith - we have proof of our beliefs. I can't speak for all of us, just myself personally and other atheists, agnostics, and evolutionists that I know.

The user who posted that question is the reason we mock Christians. I was once told by a Southern Baptist that when you read the Bible, you have to read it with an "open mind" and "not attempt to use logic in understanding it". How much since does that make? Christianity in general is a religion that instructs its practitioners to abandon logic and follow its teaching on nothing but blind faith.

But we are the ones who are brainwashed of course. We should follow on blind faith instead of facts, logic, and reason.

Answer 7

We all are brain washed from time to time. Some like most that believe in religion will never face the truth. It takes a lot of effort to separate what is true from what is not. Religion is a method of control that closes the mind to what is real. Religion was born out of ignorance when mankind was just beginning to form communities of order. People do have to have some means of control so superstition or religion one in the same was the only way long ago. Civil law is replacing religion to some degree in the modern ages. If this is better I do not know. Only time will give that answer. So far it is.

Answer 8

Most faiths teach that you must suspend logic, because logic and faith are incompatible. Facts are not facts. Remember there are still people out there who claim the world is flat. When people are actively asked to ignore evidence and rely on faith, you get one group. There is another group who are repeatedly told that all faith is bunk. I am a proponent of intelligent design (that the universe was setup by a higher intelligence, not the corrupted version the Christian right has espoused), but my religious affiliation is best described as lapsed agnostic Buddhist. I try to see both sides, but I have come to one conclusion: if the christians are right, then Yahweh/Jehovah is a malicious pernicious prick, and is not in any way related to the christ they claim to follow. The 2 are incompatible

Answer 9

"A professorship of theology should have no place in our institution." Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Cooper, October 7, 1814, referring to the University of Virginia.

Your brain seems realtively well washed to me. Modern Judeo-Christian-Islamic thinking for the most part requires one to value the text over any evidence (note: I did not write "other evidence"). It requires self chosen intellectual dishonesty, either through refusing to see the contradictions or refusing to read the texts in the first place. I do not think this is washing the brain, but intentionally soiling it. There are no evolutionists, one is either accountable to science (substantiated knowledge) or they aren't. Creationists aren't, no matter how they might try to reconcile the two, and should hold no position teaching or doing science.

Answer 10

why do we mock [ridicule] God and Christians?

Because the fairy stories they are supposed to have written / believe in are RIDICULOUS.

Being brainwashed with logic is surely a survival mechanism. I am quite pleased to be brainwashed in to knowing that fire is hot.

Mystical gods, magicians and wizards dont touch the realms of reality