When you disagree with homosexuality and religion is your key reason do you take the time to see things.......

Question

from the homosexuals point of view or do you only see your point of view and that is the only thing you consider?

If so, and you have the ability to take in new ideas about homosexuality try visiting:
http://www.freewebs.com/humanity22/

It's my website and I have worked very hard bringing new ideas to people who have often refused to see new ideas because they believe that there is only one way to think.But I hope that a person who claims to be spirtual can see that part of being spirtual is to allow the spirit to see the many wonders of humanity and not judge them based on only one concept of human nature or base judgment on perceptions alone.

So, how do you see things when you view something like homosexuality and are you open to see things from another point of view?

Answer 1

I checked out your website and I think it is a very good one. You make many good points there and you put them forward in a good way too. I don't disagree with homosexuality or gay marriages, but I think your website helps at least the non-fanatics see the whole issue from another point of view and maybe (hopefully) understand it a little better.

I always try to keep an open mind and hear other people out and put myself in their position to try to understand things better. I think that is much more enriching than insisting that I'm always right and they're wrong and refusing to even consider the possibility that I might be the one who is wrong.

Answer 2

The reason the Church is against homosexual acts is that it's contrary to nature, it's also a psychosexual developmental disorder and was seen so by the medical community until the psychiatric diagnose was removed because of political pressure, and no medical reasons. It can sometimes be cured by psychotherapy.
It's not only condemned in the old testament but also severely by Paul in the new testament.
God does love homosexual persons just as much as he loves everyone else.

Answer 3

I checked out your site. I found it to be reflective of your point of view only, and claiming that there is only one way to think based on your concept of human nature and judgement on perception alone.

If we can go by our feelings alone or by what seems right to us, then there is no standard, and we can go around killing people as long as it feels right.

Proverbs 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Consider living your life, not according to whatever strikes your fancy, but according to an objective, unchanging standard: the Bible. You inaccurately portray the Bible on your site by redefining words and quoting verses out of their contexts. Look at what it actually says, not what you would like it to say.

Answer 4

And what do you say to those who disagree with Homosexuality who use logic as the key reason.

Fact 1. Stand a male and female naked infront of a mirror. Common sense tells you the man is made for the woman and the woman is made for the man.

Fact 2. Logic tells us if any kind of life form dies out in it's first generation something is flawed. Seeing that the homosexual relationship as a whole is unable to reproduce except by using the heterosexual method it's first generation is doomed to become extinct (Production by heterosexuals does not count as accepted method of reproduction because the survival would be dependent on chanch.)

I would be interested in how you would answer these statements.

Answer 5

During a debate or discussion, about any number of topics, the most important thing I can do is to LISTEN. This assists me when listening to all points of view. I generally get into disagreements with people because their arguments are generally flawed or lack logic. I could care less about one's lifestyle preference or religion....it is not up to me to judge people (I have too many flaws myself that need correcting before I start judging others).

Answer 6

Christians quote "Leviticus" when condemning homosexuality. They conveniently leave out the parts where it says it is OK to stone your children to death for misbehavior. You have to consider the source here - people that are convinced they are right, and won't even debate the possibility that they might be wrong. They have made up their minds - don't confuse them with the facts.

Answer 7

Most people only take the time to see their own point of view.....and that's the problem!

Answer 8

I agree with you totally, I'm not gay but allot of my friends are and it is disgusting how they get judged and treated by others, who actually have no right at all. They have to ask themselves "what is wrong me that I care what other people do". I actually had a gay friend who took his own life when he came out to his parents and they disowned him, they now wish they had acted differently and so do I, but its too late for that. People must think how their actions and words affect other people.

10 Thumbs up for you dude!
Take care

Answer 9

You should check out the bottom half of this page:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm

Check out the arguements made, and the sources used. It may give you some more "ammo".

Answer 10

Religion is not primarily my base opinion, it is the word of God per se that is important, as written "Man do not live by bread alone but from every word that proceedeth out from the mouth of God" (Proverbs)

God established His Truth. We have it in the New Testament and it consists of both commands as well as examples of how to carry out His will and intention. God's truth remains the same whether people perceive it as the truth or not. In fact, the Lord Himself even said as He revealed it that a great apostasy would come (1 Tim 4). This would occur because men would lose the right attitude toward the unchangeable truth of God's word. When their hearts, or attitudes toward the revealed standard of God's authority changed, then their practices, and even their terminology changed. That is why "parties" and "divisions" came to exist. Not because there is a pattern, but rather because of man's cavalier attitude toward it.

To revere the Lord by looking into the pages of the New Covenant to try to find and apply the pattern is not sectarian or being a "partyist". I need not join some party or schism or group. My loyalty must be to Christ. But this loyalty does not express itself apart from loyalty to His Word. I may not even agree with all my brethren who approach the Scriptures with this same determination and respect on everything. But as they, too, out of loyalty to Jesus look to the pages of the New Testament to discover and put into practice the pattern, I can have fellowship and respect as I join with my fellow heirs of Christ's glory and promise in looking toward heaven and assisting one another in proving all things (Acts 17:11). As we do this together, we are not being "partyists" in any bad sense of the term at all.

If we are going to be careful not to join in with the "great apostasy" of 1 Tim 4, it will be necessary not to lose the perspective they lost that led to their falling away (as in the first paragraph above). We have wonderful instructions about the local church in the epistles. There are commands... do this... do not do this. We need to apply those commands to our local churches or even to ourselves today. For example, 1 Cor 11 has some commands about the Lord's Supper; both the "do this" as well as "Do not do this" varieties. We should be careful to follow this teaching. But we also have, in the Book of Acts, examples of these churches being established. We have examples of what they were taught. We have examples of how they obeyed the commands of God.

But what we know for sure is that this is what faithful disciples did in carrying out the commands of God. We know this. So what do we do with the inspired account of the examples of carrying out God's commands? Do we treat them as mere historical drama of questionable usefulness today? Or do we reverently seek to obey the Lord's commands using these examples as His illustration, or pattern, of carrying out His will?

I know what I choose to do, and it has nothing at all to do with being part of a party. Some may call me "legalist" or "traditionalist" or worse (it happens). I'll pray for the Lord to touch their hearts, but I'll not let their opposition, and sometimes malice, detract me from my goal. As long as the Lord Jesus calls me "blessed", that's alright with me.

HOMOSEXUALITY

We all know for sure that being an Homosexual is an abominable thing to God, because it is a distortion of facts that utterly denied that God create male and female in reality. God did not create "The in Between" of male and female. God says "He created them male and female."

Being a homosexuals or lesbian is primarily a choice of an individual, and labeled it "Alternative Lifestyle" God in the first place does not invoke neither suggest to have this kind of lifestyle! God said in the book of John "Be ye perfect as your father in heaven is perfect."

Homosexual and Lesbian are in the state of confusion. Why? They do not know where they stand for (Male or Female). Satan confused there mind, so much so that they became partaker of evil things which is abominable unto God.

In conclusion, this verse will prove many things. From the book of Romans Chapter 1.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 ¶ Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.