the big bang is flaw?

Question

how is the theory of " the big bang" true because it starts with two atoms colliding and a gigantic explosion which made the universe, but where did the atoms come from. They had to come from a higher being, a god. I would like peoples comments on this.

Answer 1

You are right! There has to be a first cause. That first cause is God. That God is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the only true and living God!

The God of The Holy Bible is the only true and living God. In the Old Testament times of The Holy Bible God was known as Jehovah God. According to Clarence Larkin in his book, Dispensational Truth, 1920, page 47, Published by Larkin's estate, God went by seven “Jehovah God” names:

“1. JEHOVAH-JIRESH-”The Lord will provide.” Genesis 22:13-14 That is, provide a sacrifice. 2. JEHOVAH-RAPHA-”The Lord that healeth.” Exodus 15:26. 3. JEHOVAH-NISSI-“The Lord our Banner.” Exodus 17:8-15. 4. JEHOVAH-SHALOM-”The Lord our peace.” Judges 6:23-24. 5. JEHOVAH—RA-AH-”The Lord my Shepherd.” Psalms 23. 6. JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU-”The lord our righteousness.” Jeremiah 3:6. 7. JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH-“The Lord is present.” Exodus 48:35. It is only as we know the meaning of the different titles of God that we can understand their significance. The word for Christ as “Creator” is “ELOHIM,” for Christ as “revealer and Redeemer” is JEHOVAH (translated Lord).”

In the New Testament Jehovah God is revealed to be a Trinity-God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God The Holy Spirit. Matthew 28:19: “Go ye, therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing then in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” Today Christians worship Jehovah God in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ. (Most Jews still worship God as Jehovah God.) Jesus Christ, Jehovah God in the Old Testament, came to the Jews as their Messiah during New Testament times but most of them rejected Him. Christians know that Jesus Christ is the only true and living God. Christians know that the word “Lord” for Jesus Christ means Jehovah God.

John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father but by me.”

Jesus Christ Christ is the only way to God the Father and to heaven. There is no other way to get to heaven. There is no other true and living God.
All other so-called gods are false gods. They are not real . They do not exist. They are actually Satan or his demons disguised as gods. From the beginning Satan wanted to be as God. In order to to capture the souls/spirits of the masses he now does the best he can to be God by being a god to as many as he can be by appearing to be a god in different forms to different groups of people. The more false gods he can create the more souls/spirits he can capture for himself and take them to hell to be with him forever in eternity. All false religions who worship false gods were created by Satan. Allah for the Muslims. Confucius for the Chinese. Buddha for the Buddhists. ETC.

Christians know Jesus Christ as the Son of God who was sent to earth by God the Father to become a man to die for the sins of the whole world. Christians know Jesus Christ is the only true and living Lord God. (Romans 10:9-10 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus {that Jesus is Lord} and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believed unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”) Christians know that the blood that Jesus Christ shed at Calvary is the only thing that can forgive, remove and cleanse them from all their sins. Christians know that they must repent of (turn from) their sins to Christ. (Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.” and Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”) Christians know that they must ask Jesus Christ to come into their heart/lives to live there forever. (John l:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he the power to come sons {children} of God, even to them that believe on his name.”) Christians know they must give up their sins and live in obedience to Jesus Christ the rest of their lives. Christians know that when they die they will go to heaven to be with Jesus Christ forever. Christians know that all of this is a life lived by faith. Is all this true of you? Are you a Christian? If not, why not become one today.
The Holy Bible in Hebrews 11:6 says “But without faith it is impossible to please him (God); for he that cometh to God must believe (have faith) that he (God) is, and that he (God) is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him (God).” Parentheses mine!
By faith, acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the only true and living God. By faith, acknowledge you are a sinner in need of the forgiveness that Jesus Christ offers. By faith, turn from all your sins to Jesus Christ and ask Him to come into your heart/life to live there forever. By faith, give your heart/life to Jesus Christ to live for Him the rest of your life. All of this is what is meant when the Lord Jesus Christ said: “Jesus answered, and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God (go to heaven).” You were born physically into your earthly family. To go to heaven you must be born again spiritually into your heavenly family, God's spiritual family.
Salvation is a free gift. You cannot work for it. You cannot be good enough to earn it. You must, by faith, receive it as a free gift. (“8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast.”) Ephesians 2:8-9. If you never have, do it today. This is my prayer for you.

Answer 2

The Big Bang did NOT start with "two atoms colliding". There was nothing, and then there was something. No "atoms" existed before the Big Bang (or at least, not in this lifetime of the universe). I believe that scientists are on the right track with the idea of the Big Bang, and they are constantly learning more everyday to strengthen or change their theories. I also do not find it impossible to believe in God while believing in the Big Bang. They are not mutually exclusive ideas.
-Key point: Before the Big Bang, there WERE no atoms. :) Hope this was helpful, and not boring.

Answer 3

The big bang does not state that two atoms collided. The big bang postulates that nothing exploded - that is, 'nothing' became so dense, it exploded into the universe we have now - though lots of the elements we have had to be baked in the stars that formed from the initial explosion.

In the universe, if all the anti-matter and all the matter are totalled up, they equal zero. Kinda like back where we started.

So, there are no atoms before the big bang. There is nothing before the big bang, therefore nothing is required to get things going.

Answer 4

Well, whether you believe the theory or not, it doesn't contain anything about the Universe beginning with the collision of two atoms. It goes more along the line that the Universe is expanding from an extremely hot and dense state where physics as we know it did not apply. Atoms did not exist in the early Universe. The theory is based mostly on observed expansion of our Universe & later with supporting data on background radiation; it takes no position as to the existence of god. It is possible to believe in both.

The "Big Bang" is one of many theories re. the early Universe & origin of the Universe. I suggest you go to Wikipedia or a similar website and read about it. Look up "Big Bang" Hubble's Law & FLRW to name just a few.

Answer 5

Um, no, it doesn't involve two atoms colliding.

It involves utter nothingness, or a singularity, without a cause, exploding into something.

And you want to assert a god made the initial condition, because anything that exists has a beginning? Then your god had a beginning if he exists. You believe he exists, then he has a beginning. But your God didn't have a beginning? Fine, numerous testable versions of the inflationary universe have a scenario where there isn't actually a 'beginning', there is an eternally existing point of origin called the inflaton. So, God's not needed. The inflaton always was, is, and evershallbe, spawning off universes.

Answer 6

Look, I am a Christian and believe in a variation of intelligent design, but you need to do a bit of studying on this okay. It wasn't just 2 atoms hitting each other, it was supposed to be a big sphere of extremely dense matter. The reason for the "bang" in the theory is because as far as we can tell, all the matter in the universe is moving away from one spot.

But yes, there are always new questions, how did all that matter get there? How did the laws of nature get to be just what they are? etc. I've always found science to be a way of explaining some of Gods methods, you shouldn't let your faith feel so threatened by it.

best wishes.

Answer 7

First of All the Big Bang Model says NOTHING about two atoms colliding. So wherever you are getting your information, you really need to go to another source.

Second the Big Bang Model is a model about the expansion of the universe. It is not a model of the Origin of the universe ( if there even is such a thing).

Third your claim the universe had to come from god has no basis. My own belief is the universe is the result of ( and indeed is ) mathematics ( logical necessity) as described by the physicist Max Tegmark in Scientific american a few years back . But there are other possibilities as well. Your claim it needs to come from god is completely unsupported. And since you obviously know nothing about the big bang model, I don't see any reason to take your opinion seriously.

I see you have no explanation for the existence of your creator god. It is special pleading to require that all things require a designer except the designer. If everything has a designer, then your designer has a designer and that designer has a designer. You can see the problem. Now If you say everything has a designer but that the designer does not need a designer, then your designer is not part of everything. If your designer is not part of everything then it doesn't exist.

It can be proven in mathematics that in order to design something a closed designing system must be at least as complicated (Kolmogorov Complexity) as what it is designing. If the argument complex beings require a designer had any validity then the designer would need a greater designer, and that designer would need an even greater designer etc.

It is funny creationists often make the argument that a bacteria is too complex to not be designed and then claim their infinitely more complex god just is and doesn't need to be designed cause it just is. Can we say the word "Hypocracy"? How about the words "Intellectual Dishonesty".

However we know from mathematics that something can appear to be designed without really being so. Just look at a fractal. The Mathematician Steven Cook proved a very very simple formula like Wolfram's rule 110 for example generates more apparent local complexity than is contained in the entire solar system.

We understand from mathematics how apparently complex systems come about and it is always due to selection effects. You take a simple but diverse set and select a complex subset from it. In order to do that you need a selecting agent. In the case of our universe we have a selecting agent. That selecting agent is our own existence.

The explaination is that reality is incredibly vast and diverse. Only in small apparently complex portions of that reality can beings such as ourselves evolve. It is not a coincidence, nor is it by chance we find ourselves in such a region. Instead it is a necessity.

It is a lot like the myopic snowflake who finds himself in a snowstorm and concludes he was designed by a snow pixie. His argument is that the world is the perfect temperature for snow to form. When in reality the world is vast and only in small portions of it can snowflakes form.

Or you can think of us as like a lottery winner who concludes there must be a cosmic cheater who rigged the lottery, when in fact there were simply millions of people buying lottery tickets and someone was bound to win.

Now that we have shown that a seemingly complex system does not need to be designed as long as it is part of a vast, diverse whole. How does that vast diverse whole come about. We obviously are getting into extremely difficult ideas here but several physicists are arguing that reality is based upon and indeed is, mathematics. By that they mean that reality consists of the class of necessarily true statements one can make about logical systems.

One physicist has even argued that the class of necessarily true statements one can make about logical systems is isomorphic ( mathematically identical ) to string theory. Basically arguing that nature is mathematically necessary. The reason it does not feel necessary is that we see so little of it, and that we see it from within it rather than seeing it as it really is.

So In conclusion there does not need to be a god. All that is necessary is a vast diversity. And that diversity might be simply logical necessity. Furthermore the requirement complex entities need designers is false and leads to infinite regression, and ultimately hypocracy and intellectual dishonesty.

Answer 8

Some claim to have proof that the Orion may be the gate to the center of the universe and the "Great White Throne of God" and we are some where in the center of the universe. Their videos explain what they're talking about. http://www.halos.com/videos/index.htm
The videos didn't load for me, so I did some trick with my internet browser. I go to where it says history (that clock icon) click "view, by order visited today", then when you get to the page and click the video you want to watch, you'll see that a url will appear. Copy and paste it in a google search. Then Right click "save target as".

These sites claim to know the flaw of the big bang
http://www.orionfdn.org/
http://www.halos.com/

This topic is explained here too
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0807tj.asp


Hmmm, some really weird stuff, no?

Answer 9

if you have to ask where the atoms came from and they came from god, then don't you have to ask where god came from? I don't know if I believe in big bang or not but I do believe that everything came from something even if it goes on for infinity

Answer 10

The peoples think you know nothing of the Big Bang

Answer 11

To go back before big-bang, creationism or anything. Where did it come from? Where did god come from? God didn't create time, time is god. But where and why did time start?