I have a feeling I'm going to get a lot of answers that have nothing to do with my question, but here it goes:
What if someone does what they believe to be right, but their acts are viewed as wrong by society. Have they sinned? Would God/Allah/etc be disappointed if you followed what you believed to be right/wrong? For example:
- Someone legitimately believes that God/Allah/etc. would be pleased if the leader of a non-believing society were killed, so they kill them.
BEFORE you answer with "God doesn't want that", both the bible and koran quote that non-believers should be killed...but that's not even the point. The point is this person did what they felt was right, and what was wanted by their god.
So, did they sin?
Just looking for opinions, not preaching.
2006-08-29
08:40:49
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C- Yeah, the crusades, the spanish inquisition, the holocaust...silly muslims :P
YOU'RE STILL MISSING THE QUESTION!
2006-08-29
08:47:41 ·
update #1
Chronicles
Whoever that does not seek the God of Israel should be executed. 15:13
2006-08-29
08:52:41 ·
update #2
To them no, they did not sin because they thought, mistakenly, they were doing what they thought was right. BUT, to those of us that know right from wrong,yes, he did sin! Call it what you like,a sin,a wrong doing,whatever,its just wrong. Believers, non-believers, whatever,it doesn't matter, its wrong to take anothers life.So yes,that say's they sinned! In my book anyway!
2006-08-29 09:00:31
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answered by Anonymous
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There is more to your question than what you put down. What about a nutcase who thinks God told him to go start killing - like Osama bin Laden? Or at least that's what he CLAIIMS his God (Allah) wants, but is that what any rational God would want?
Sin isn't determined by what any person or society believes is right or wrong. Sin is determined by what is absolutely right or wrong irregardless.
While parts of the Koran and the Bible may say it is or was OK to kill, in general killing is a sin. "THOU SHALT NOT MURDER WITH PREMEDITATION" is closer to the actual intent of the applicable commandment in the Bible often misquoted as "THOU SHALT NOT KILL". What is the difference? It's not murder to execute a convicted criminal who is an ongoing threat to and burden on society, for instance. God doesn't bar one from extracting ultimate justince under appropriate circumstances.
But your question seems to have a disturbing side. Are you perhaps thinking that it's time you became an instrument of divine justice? If so, remember, that is not your job. If you're hearing the voice of God telling you it is, SEEK HELP! And I don't mean here asking questions. I mean PROFESSIONAL HELP.
Please comment after you pick a best answer with where in the Bible (and be sure and list which translation you re using) it says that you can kill nonbelievers. Remember the Old Testament was replaced for the most part, if not entirely, by the New so if it's in the OT it probably doesn't apply any more.
2006-08-29 08:50:02
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answered by Anonymous
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"Someone legitimately believes that God/Allah/etc. would be pleased " first how can a person be so sure that he/she will make the right thing. For example if he deeply (i mean not just reading Koran and also historical events and Hadiths ) inavestigates and decides : " Yes I sholud do that". It might not be a sin. But Allah is merciful.
," but their acts are viewed as wrong by society" I think this verse of the Koran might be helpful
2006-08-29 08:57:42
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answered by A.D.T. 2
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Hey Doug Doug,
i think your question is answered by determing what is sin and who determines what sin is. If you're asking people you'll get all sorts of different answers. Ultimately if sin is an offense against God then you do have to base it upon the Bible (in terms of your comemnt regarding that the Bible commands non-believers to be killed- there were instances in the OT where a non-believing nation was judged- but the theme throughout the Bible is God restoring man because of his sin.
God does kill people because of their sinfulness and in fact the Bible teaches that he has given us government to be an agent for God. So when a man like Hussain or Hitler is killed, it's a good thing.
But in answering your question once again- i think you need an absolute standard and need to determine who sin is really against (and who gets to define sin). One person might say this is sin one person says it isn't. Well if sin is against God than i think He should have the only say.
i sincerely hope that help- and not trying to preach to you either...
Kindly,
Nickster
2006-08-29 08:47:46
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answered by Nickster 7
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"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the heart" Proverbs 21:2 God knows what we do and why we do it. Let's face it, Family Services would have come down hard on Abraham for tying Isaac up and laying him on the alter to be sacrificed. Society does not always look at things in the same way that God does. Next question; Are we ready to pay the price to society to do what we think is right even when society will demand an accounting?
2006-08-29 08:49:36
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm a Christian.
I think I can speak for Muslims by saying that society didn't define the 'rules' set apart by our religion. The ten commandments were written by God - not man. The Bible was God-breathed through the hearts of man. (God inspired men to write down His word.)
Case in point, it is much more costly to sin against God than it is against society. Society can mock and make fun of you, but God can condemn you to a life of eternal seperation from both people and the Creator (a.k.a, Hell).
As for Christians killing non-believers, that is not true. We are out to spread the word of Jesus Christ. We believe in free will. Your decision is between you and God. Beyond that, there is nothing that we can do. We follow the template of Christ in that we don't enter the world to condemn it, but to tell everyone that there is a way to redemption in God's eyes. That is to confess your sins, and let Jesus Christ come into your life as Lord and Savior.
I hope this wasn't too "preachy" for you. I am giving you my opinion and a little bit on what the Bible says too.
2006-08-29 08:50:21
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answered by Oklahoman 6
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No. If someone does what they truly believe God wants them to do, and that's a pretty big IF, then they are being true to themself and to their God. Unfortunately, this leaves the door wide open for those people who are insane like Al Qaeda. So just because someone may or may not be committing a "sin" in the eyes of God doesn't mean that society has to accept it or allow it.
2006-08-29 08:56:58
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answered by Open Heart Searchery 7
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There is no good and evil, and therefore there is no "sin".
There are only responsible and irreponsible. These two can be empirically proved. The person has committed murder, doubtless with a clean conscience, and sad to say, this type of thing happens all the time. (Remember Andrea Yates?)
Murder, as a behavior, is irresponsible - because as a member of a society, we all have responsibility to that society to uphold. Our society currently forbids murder. When people do not obey society rules, the society collapses. Therefore, the behavior was irresponsible, and nothing more.
"Good" and "evil" are fancy words we stick on things that we like and dislike. Cannabalism is forbidden in some societies and sacred in others. One man's trash is another man's treasure, etc.
2006-08-29 08:47:03
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answered by wideawake42 3
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I get what your saying. That if One person follows what they believe to be right or what their religions tells them that is right but is not in the norm of the society then is it wrong. From their point of view obviously no, but from the society yes. I guess you will get so many different answers it will never be answered. because it differs from one person to the next and you can never get a straight answer because we all don't believe in the same things. I would think that if it's bad enough for the world to think it's bad, thats really bad. specially on a religious note.
2006-08-29 09:07:08
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answered by kimber g 4
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#1. Go back to your bible....the bible does not say people who do not believe should be killed. What about love one another....the bible (and God) tells us to love (not kill???) non- believers. You are right about the Koran though.
#2. To answer your question: You are only accountable for what you know or have been told. Those who never have heard that something is wrong cannot and will not be punished for that of which they knew nothing about. However, some people claim to "believe" something that they know is wrong in effort to quiet their conscience.
2006-08-29 08:49:38
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answered by Stiletto ♥ 6
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First the Bible does not say that non-believer should be killed. They are to be loved and witness to. Now if you are look to say that something is sin if It goes against what society say what is right then in some societies believing in GOD is a sin then. But if it goes against what GOD say then it is sin.
2006-08-29 08:45:01
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answered by Kenneth G 6
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