make the minimum wage in all european countries the same then there would be no immig' problem do you agree??

Answer 1

yes i do firmly agree with you on this one

Answer 2

Different countires have different economies. That's a fact. If you made every mimimum wage the same, then in one country a Doctor could be paid less than an officer worker, as well as vice versa.

Immigrants who come here can be seperated into two types:

Legal immigrants, who, on the whole (especially the subjects of this latest Polish "invasion") are skilled, and come to find well-paid jobs to suit their skills in this country. The ones who don't have immediately transferable skills are often A-Level of Degree educated, but find themselves waiting on tables or fruit picking, because the money is so good. There is room for these people, and they fill gaps that lazy dole-ite scum won't, because they can live off their Jobseekers every week.

Illegal immigrants come in for many reasons, be it that they were persecuted into their own country and didn't want to/couldn't get asylum, to find some kind of work or just to flee some hopeless hole of a country. If they find work, it is usually torid manual labour, far below the minimum wage, but decent money in their eyes.

Both these groups cannot claim benefits until they have lived in this country, officially, for a year. They usually have to work to pay rent, etc etc, so they pay taxes for that year, i.e. contribute to society, which is a lot more that the aforementioned dole-ite scum do. Hardly special treatment.

Illegal immigrants cannot be effecitvely measured, but of the legal kind, in this case the Polish, around 600,000 came into the UK when Poland entered the EU. A year on, way under 100,000 thousand of them are claiming any beneits - most of the benefits claimed are Child Income Support, and Tax Credits. Very few of them worked for a year and then appeared on Jobseekers. Under ten thousand, in fact.

Unemployment rose this quareter to the highest figure in a long time, yes. What tabloid rubbish like The Sun and it's ilk put in small print was that employment ALSO rose. I.e. There are more people unemployed, but there are also more people employed, which is just part of how an economy works. Job losses balancing out job creation, etc.

Of course, new Eastern European and other international citizens put a strain on the country's infrastructure - new kids (who can't speak English) in schools, new people for the NHS to deal with, however, these legal immigrants come to fill jobs which are there to be filled and contribute taxes to society. So this, as a rule, can balance out.

Read around, ouside of the Daily Mirror and the BNP newsletter, will you? Don't believe the hype.

Answer 3

What is the immigrant problem? Why is it a problem that hundreds of thousands of hard-working, church-going Poles have come here and got jobs? What is the problem with that?

The reason they have come here is that money doesn't have the same value. The Polish economy, where a teacher may be earning £130 a month, cannot take a £5 an hour minimum wage.
It's like saying:"The Prime Minister gets a really good pension deal. Why not solve the pensions crisis by making everybody Prime Minister for a day.'' In short, it's cobblers.

Answer 4

At the moment the economies of the newer EU members are such that prices and wages appear to be much lower than in the UK. The problem is not so much with minimum wages as with exchange rates. In time economies will converge - as those of Spain and Portugal have done. (It wasn't that long ago you could stay and eat in Portugal for next to nothing)

There will always be a movement of people between countries. Poles come and work here because they can take the wages home and live like princes, but English people are moving to Poland because the cost of living is so low. It's only a problem because the Sun and BNP say it is.

Answer 5

Sounds like cutting off ones nose to spite their face. Rather than bankrupt many European country businesses, the United States should do away with it's minimum wage. It is counter-productive to a free and open market. Just like when we all learned that Jimmy Carters maximum gasoline price caused shortages, the minimum wage has its downside effects too.

The minimum wage is artificial economics supported by special interests (labor unions) and sponsored by politicians who have their re-election priorities ahead of good economic policy.

Answer 6

What is the problem? If the migrant works, then there's no problem, regardless of the wage. Immigration only becomes a problem when they don't contribute to society... In fact, many western europeans urgently NEED immigrants, while Poland and other eastern europeans still have a decent birthrate, and can afford to loan some workers to other nations.

Answer 7

Even if the minimum wage were the same in all EU countries, that does not mean that there is enough work in all of them.
Also, there may be shortages of certain types of workers in one country, so that the wages for that type of work or profession go up and up, attracting workers from other countries where there may be plenty or even a surplus of such professionals.

Answer 8

The problem is, the poorer European nations can't afford to pay the same minimum wage as the richer ones, which is why the problem exists in the first place - It's catch 22.

Answer 9

No. It's not that simple. People don't only imigrate here because they don't make enough money. There are many many more reasons. Education, government, family, oppression, religion, economy, technology, lifestyle, etc.. Money isn't the sole issue, so to change thier minimum wage, would not keep them from coming to this country.

Answer 10

No cos that is not the only reason that people want to come to Britian. Its lots of other things, like being able to receive child benefit, being able to get a Council house. Or if they live in fear in their own country - other countries dont have the same laws, ie it may be illegal to be gay, so they come over here so they can live in peace

Answer 11

that's idiotic - what does the minimum wage matter if you can't get a job - not all immigration is intra-EU - cost of living varies hugely across the EU so why would you have the same minimum wage.