If so, did you stone them to death?
06 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known,
07 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other),
08 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him.
09 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.
10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. - Deuteronomy 13:6-11
Unless I'm just reading this wrong.
2006-08-28
17:54:13
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Ah, yes. I had completely overlooked Judaism, and I apologize. However, who gives you the authority to say that the Bible, being the word of an infallible God, "doesn't pertain to us"? It's the same God, but you added words.
2006-08-28
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No, I did not get stoned to death when I became a christian. What you posted is old testament. Most christians just follow the new testament. And learn from the Old testament.
2006-08-28 17:58:33
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answered by jrealitytv 6
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i see it that the bible is a handbook if you will, or a set of rules that have come from a "devine" power to control a civilisation. remember christians/jews believe that this was being written at the dawn of time, so you can imagine, if that was the case, that people back then would have been just a little succeptable to things.
How much does it take for one man to travel onto the top of a mountain, with a set of rules written by his "commitee" if you will that he has then set in stone. What person at that time would question a man that returns from the mountain claiming "i have spoken to god, and this is what he has said". you'd be awe stricken right? i mean, you barely know what a wheel is, let alone how to live together as a "civilised society", so then it spirals out of control, they becoming the laws for living, reprinted and repreached until it becomes institutionalised. I'm sure you can imagine history books get rewritten, mis-quoted, rearranged and re interpreted. Suddenly this one set of rules has become solid religions that people have blind faith in, and after the sands of time have spread these rules to new lands, people cazy for power, manipulate them, allowing them to suit their current situation, thus returning to the beginning of the cycle...
How can the old testament tell you - as it clearly does, written above - to put a man to death, when a few pages back or whatever, one of the ten commandments is "thou shall not kill". I mean that's just one example, there's loads more though. how can devine power ever be interpreted to mean something else? If you believe so strongly in it, why would you question it? These are clearly man made issues, if devine power did allow us the choice, we haven't been left with any clear information to make the right choice. I guess we were at some stage, we probably just fcuked it up again as usual....
just my opinion of course, in quite a cynical mood today ;)
2006-08-29 01:28:29
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answered by franksgoneaway 1
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You might ask it of Jews, since Deuteronomy is part of the Torah.
You are not asking the proper people when you ask Christians, since the New Testament is a new covenant. The Old Testament is the old covenant.
Yet Judaism does not believe the N.T. So go round up some Jews to ask.
Unless that has too much historical baggage for you to want to deal with.
Always easier to bash the Christians, ain't it, then possibly aligning yourself with one of the modern world's greatest atrocities.
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I did not add words to the Bible. First and foremost.
Nor did I say that it "doesn't pertain" to me.
What I am saying is that it is basic to Christian theology to understand that the Old Testament is about one of God's covenants with humankind. When Christ appeared, lived, and was crucified, there was a new covenant between God and humankind.
The new covenant supercedes the old. (A terrible comparison is that new articles of incorporation cancel out the old articles.) The Old Testament is part of the Christian faith because it is God's word, and because the O.T. has prophecy of the new covenant. (That is, the old articles are still part of the new corporation, as they were its genesis. And so forth. Very hard to explain without a lengthy face-to-face chat.)
But when Jesus fulfilled the new covenant, he said that he was the Living Word, the life of the law. He did not come to kill the covenant and law of Moses and Abraham; but he came to bring a "dead" law to life.
2006-08-29 00:58:13
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answered by Gestalt 6
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Yeah, Jehovah's Witnesses often seem to like to get into comparison arguments with Christians, trying to show us that we're reading the Bible wrong (even though theirs is slightly different, misinterpreted, and they skip over scripture that disproves their stance by claiming them as "problem passages".) But hey, that's another question.
And did I stone them? No, although there were times I wanted to ;)
2006-08-29 00:59:26
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answered by Turmoyl 5
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You're reading it right, but Christians treat even the New Testament as a buffet to be picked and chosen at will. The Old Testament is sort of like the desert tray. You are free to pick anything you want, or nothing at all from it, because Jesus 'fulfilled' it away.
2006-08-29 00:57:19
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Tthe talmud gives Jews a simple loophole. Killing people in a premediated manner is against the law in this country. The talmud says you should follow all the laws of a country you live in.Therefore, killing is bad.
2006-08-30 18:47:36
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answered by abcdefghijk 4
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Occasionally, yes.
If you are Jewish, I understand what you are saying now. From a Christian perspective we believe that we are just attempting to alert you that Messiah has come. We worship the same God(from our perspective).
I did not know that you saw it this way.
2006-08-29 01:01:35
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answered by Makemeaspark 7
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no they just bash my religion like u r doing right now.
quit reading and go talk to a priest if u have any real questions. its always possible to interpert the bible wrong, thats what priests r for, to show u what God meant.
2006-08-29 01:05:54
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answered by Anonymous
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ur alwayz gonna get ppl 2 try n convert u, its jus a way 2 test ur faith in god
2006-08-29 01:00:13
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answered by Anonymous
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You have a mind and free will and must decide for yourself.
2006-08-29 00:59:24
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answered by eugene65ca 6
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