Noone seems to know that we do not go by the old testament any more. It is like a history book for us.?

Question

We are to go by the new testament. The old testament was done away with when Jesus died. Thee ten commandment are still there but changed. The sabbath in the old testament was changed from Saturday to Sunday in the new testament.

Answer 1

You need a New Testament text to prouve your statment. For example, what text says that the OT Sabbath was changes from the seventh day to the first? I can help you because I know there isn't one. That's just what some preacher, that did not know what he was talking about, told you.

"'And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men*--the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.' He said to them, 'All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.'" (Mark 7:7 - 8 NKJV)

"They continued their trip from Perga and went to Antioch, a city in Pisidia. On the Sabbath day they went into the synagogue and sat down." (Acts 13:14 NCV)

"While Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue, the people asked them to tell them more about these things on the next Sabbath." (Acts 13:42 NCV)

"On the next Sabbath day, almost everyone in the city came to hear the word of the Lord." (Acts 13:44 NCV)

"On the Sabbath day we went outside the city gate to the river where we thought we would find a special place for prayer. Some women had gathered there, so we sat down and talked with them." (Acts 16:13 NCV) (This is most interesting because Paul kept the Sabbath even when there was not a group of Jews to keep it with or a church to keep it in. He was in Philippi, and there were very few Jews there)

"Paul went into the synagogue as he always did, and on each Sabbath day for three weeks, he talked with the Jews about the Scriptures." (Acts 17:2 NCV)

"Every Sabbath day he talked with the Jews and Greeks in the synagogue, trying to persuade them to believe in Jesus." (Acts 18:4 NCV)

Answer 2

What we call the Old Testament is a translation of a translation of a translation of a collection of Hebrew documents that date back to a period around 3000-2500 years ago, when they were collected and compiled in written form by several Rabinnical traditions.

Christians revere the Old Testament because it was the collection of sacred myths and legends by which the forbears of the Christians identified themselves and defined their cultural roots. The writers of the Old Testament texts never imagined that semi-illiterate Americans thousands of years later would take their legends literally.

A Biblical author from the Babylonian exile would laugh uproariously if someone said that Genesis is a factual account of how the world was made. Or that the story of Noah's Ark and the flood actually happened. They knew they were collecting and preserving mid-eastern and Semitic myths and old wives' tales.

It has only been dimwitted, illiterate modern fundamentalists who have had such a narrow view of the world and their own history as to imagine that these legends and fairy tales had any connection with reality.

And the overwhelming majority of people in the world today know the fundamentalists are nuts, and that the Old Testament is just an old collection of fables. So we don't pay it much attention outside backward-minded churches any more. It doesn't make any sense, and it's not worth wasting a lot of time on.

The New Testament is simply an extension of the ancient Hebraic tradition into the Latin-Hellenic age of Mediterranean Europe. Both the Old and the New Testaments would have been forgotten hundreds of years ago if it hadn't been for the psychopathology of Constantine's mother.

The Christian faith developed into a political juggernaut, and has been a very profitable line of work until just lately. The Christian faith is in general decline nowadays, and the New Testament as well as the old will now be forgotten. I will miss my Anglican Rosary, but not too badly.

So don't cling to it. In Matt. 16, The Jesus Character is reported as having told a room full of people, "Truly I tell you, there are some here who will not taste death before you see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." ... ... ... dot dot dot... ... ...

Still waiting. Every Sunday morning a few more people wake up and smell the coffee and say, "You know what? He's not coming. And I have things to do on this lovely day. I hereby reclaim this day of my life as my property, and not that of a superstitious religion."

So don't cling to it. It doesn't have a chance. Abide in Peace...

Answer 3

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Torah, the Jewish book of worship, the same thing as the old testament?

Answer 4

That's because people still mention the old testament when they talk about things like EVOLUTION and also the 7 days crap where god created the world blah and also lectivus where it mentions gay sex. Christians STILL quot that crap

Answer 5

This is a great question. One that can be looked at many different ways. Lucky for us, no matter how you look at it, the answer is the same. First, you have to believe what is in the Bible is the true no matter what a Pastor, Priest or Rabbi says. This is generally the hardest part. Because we come to this question with bias. So if you believe the Bible and only the Bible and not what people say then you can come to a proof positive answer.

So let's go!

Many believe that what we call the 'Old' Testament is done with, not good to Christians. Interest. In John 5:39-40 Jesus says:

"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life."

What Scriptures do you think he was talking about? The Old Testament. The "New” Testament wasn't written yet. So, if you get rid of the Old Testament, do you not get rid of testimony of Jesus? Just a thought. So can we say that Jesus is the Christ of the Old and New Testament? I think we can.

So everything must fit together Old and New Testament.

Now an interesting verse in Malachi 3:6. God say "I the LORD do not change" This is a good thing. Image a God that changes. What he says is truth. Now and forever.

Now who wrote the ten commandments? Moses or God?

EX 31:18 "When the LORD finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the Testimony, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God." Answer: God In fact that this is only one of a few times that Gods himself wrote something with him own finger. Must be important don't you think? He didn't even trust Moses with it. (If fact I can show you that it was God the Son that wrote. But that's another study.)

Now let's look at the book of James. James 2:10 which says "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." What law is he talking about? Verse 11 says "For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." He is quoting the ten commandments. Really? By the way what is sin? 1 John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." So, without the Law, how would you know what sin is? Interesting question.

Now according to Jesus what are the two Great Commandments? Mark 12:29-31 Jesus says "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." People say that this is the "new' covenant. And I say you are right. But funny thing, I have seen these words before. Where you say? Deut 10:12 "And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul" And Lev 19:18 "Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD." Wow cool. It fits. The first four commandments tells use how to Love God and the last six tells use how to love your neighbor. Again, it fits.

So is the ten commandment important? I think so. Jesus thought so. However, they can only take you so far. They can show us our sins but it can't take it away. In steps in Jesus. 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." This is the promises of faith. Think of it like this, the ten commandments is like a mirror and Jesus is the wash cloth.

So what have we learned so far. 1) God wrote the ten commandments with his own finger, 2) God doesn't change 3) the ten commandment identify the sin 4) Jesus cleanse us from sin

Now I would like to discuss this more in detail but it take a book to write so I will address the Saturday to Sunday thing.

First, if God wrote the ten commandments, it's only God that can change it right? And if he changed it he would come out and say it just as He did with the ten commandments, right? But we read earlier the God doesn't change. To look at this you have to read the fourth commandment completely. Ex 20:8-11 says "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

Interesting. Why did God made the Sabbath? Jesus says the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. Mark 2:27. So He made it for man. What for? The hint is the first word. "Remember” Why? Genesis 2:2-3 "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." By the way, Adam and Eve were not Jews so to say the Sabbath is for the Jews, well you forgot to tell Adam and Eve. Oh, yes forgot one thing, this was before the fall. Before sin entered. Before Jesus had to leave heaven and die for our sins. This was when the world was perfect. Interesting. And we say that the Sabbath has change? The reason for the Sabbath was to remind us that God is our Creator. Has that change? Not the last time I checked.

So if you look at if with an open mind, read the Bible and not listen to any Pastor, Priest or Rabbi but only from the word of God. You will not find any verse, comment or idea that the Sabbath has changed from Saturday to Sunday. All the Apostle kept the Sabbath and Jesus keep the Sabbath. But you say they were Jews. They were Christians people and Jesus was the Son of God. Who are you going to follow? Some Pastor, Priest or Rabbi? Or Jesus.

It's up to you.

Answer 6

No, it's like a fairy tale....