Is a "completed christian" a christian that converts to Judaism?

Question

If not, the why do they call Jews that convert from Judaism to Christianity "completed Jews"? Isn't that insulting to Jews and putting down their religion?

Answer 1

Jewish people that convert from Judaism to Christianity are still Jews but they are called Messianic Jews and a completed Christian / Messianic is someone that acepts Jesus as there Lord and Savour and I know this is because my Pastor is a Messianic Jew...

Answer 2

My boss is Jewish and so are some of my co-workers and friends--if I wanted to see them spit like rabid dogs, I would use that phrase.

I guess it's to make Messianic Jews feel better and illustrate that they're trying to hold on to thier heritage, but it only ends up insulting Jews.

Then again, most Christians use "Old Testament" and don't understand that that's insulting to Jews and Judaism.

A Muslim could call a formerly-Christian convert a "completed Christian", because they believe that Jesus was one of a line of prophets.

EDIT: I am not suggesting that Muslims do this, only illustrating the arrogance of the term.

Answer 3

its not a question of insult its a question of whether the object of the faith true or not.

if Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, then it is reasonable that faith in Jesus is a fullfillment of the Biblical faith and it would even be crusial to stand up for it

and if Jesus is not, then you are right on, its a big mistake

so the issue rests squarely on the issue of whether or not Jesus is in fact the Jewish Messiah

clearly someeone saying that is coming from the point of view that Jesus as Messia is the fullfillment of the Jewish prophets (as frankly I bleieve) and in no way intended as an insult

I do agree that there are some phrases that are true in the intended sense but not helpful and best avoided like Old Testament and use of Tenak would be more respectful. And I might agree that fulfilled Jew might not be the best phrase to use and Messianic Jew might be better in this case I am all for avoiding unecessary stumbling blocks while speaking the truth in love

Answer 4

A "completed Christian" would be one who has been regenerated (born again) by the Spirit of God, according to John chapter 3. This requires acknowledging that Jesus has paid the penalty for sin through His substitutionary death, and committing to follow and obey Him no matter what the cost, not because it's a requirement, but because of a deep appreciation for the price Jesus paid - His very life (Isaiah 53). Jesus was Himself a Jew who fulfilled over 100 prophecies regarding the Jewish Messiah (including rising from the dead - Psalm 16:10), and will fulfill the rest when He comes to earth again to establish His kingdom (prophesied repeatedly throughout the Hebrew scriptures), so in a sense, a "completed Christian" IS serving a Jewish God (whether Jew or Gentile), and according to Romans chapter 11, as a Gentile, has in fact, been grafted into the Jewish family tree, at least on a spiritual level. A Jew who accepts Jesus as the true Messiah, is then a "completed Jew" because He has faith in the One who fulfilled the Law, making it no longer necessary to sacrifice animals for the atonement of sin. (Note the destruction of the temple just a few decades after His death and resurrection.) Read Romans chapters 9 through 11 for more on this.

Answer 5

Yea, I have a hard time with that one too. Is a non believing Jew not completely Jewish? Is a christian gentile not completely christian. I think some well meaning people made up some theology without much thinking and with absolutely no biblical base.

Answer 6

No, a "completed christian" is one for whom the race is over. IE they are DEAD, and died in their faith.

Gentile Christians did not come up with the term "Completed Jews". That was a Messianic Jewish invention. It simply means that the person who has accepted Jesus as their Jewish Messiah is walking in the "completed" form of Judaism. The Messiah has come, and brought to completion all that the Prophets wrote and intended for the race of Isreal. Now, in Messiah, the people of Earth (both Jewish and Gentile) can be one (re-united in brotherhood and worship).

Some non-messianic Jews may consider "Messianic Judaism" or "Completed Jew" to be insulting. I'm willing to bet they haven't fully investigated the claims of Jesus as the Messiah, and are simply rejecting the teaching because they were taught to do so.

Answer 7

I'll say its a valid point however I personally do not believe either is nessisary. I dont feel it is nessisary for Christians to get into Jewish traditions nor do I think it is nessisary for Jews to get into Christianity but I DO believe they are welcome for each to do so if they choose to and it probably does provide them a spirit of "completion"

I used to attend a Christian church who held Passover Saders and such, and I really liked it, I dont go there now because I dont live in that area. I think its benificial for your own spirit to do so but adopting the traditions of one or the other isnt what saves us.

Answer 8

Seems like a whimsical question.
Whatever turns your crank I guess.

Are you worried about insults to Jews?

Answer 9

It is insulting but Christians using the term don't seem to care.

As for truth Torah has 3 million witnesses and Jesus had one guy who had visions.

Answer 10

That is really insulting. But that's Christianity for ya.