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some will say "an eye for an eye" when it comes to questions like this. but when it comes to pro choicers you have another solution, "thall shall not kill"? so which is it? to me, pro life is just that. life.

2006-08-28 08:30:05 · 14 answers · asked by tandypants 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

i am in no way saying i'm pro death, i just want to know your logic.

2006-08-28 08:40:16 · update #1

14 answers

Unfortunately most conservatives who believe in pro choice also believe in the death penalty. Personally I agree this is a conflict of belief but that is just me. Somepeople can honestly reconsile that with themselves. (idiots if you ask me)


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2006-08-28 08:41:15 · answer #1 · answered by Kenneth F 2 · 3 1

It is possible to be pro-life and support the death penalty at the same time.

First, the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" is best translated "Thou shalt not murder." Biblical Hebrew has two distinct words. One is for murder; the other is for killing in the sense of swatting a fly. Also, in the commandment the verb stem of the word translated "kill" is a verb stem that gives intensity to the verb. The things that we miss when we translate things into English from Hebrew are those things that make things more intense because we don't have an analog in English.

Second, Christians also stand for justice. If Christians want to hold life in high regard, then they cannot be light handed when it comes to punishing those who commit murder. If the price of life is so high, then only way to pay for it is with another life. If at any point murder does not demand another life, then we are saying the murder victim’s life is worth less than the life of the murderer. Likewise, if Christians allow for abortion, then they are saying the life of an unborn child is worth less than the life of one who has been born. Christians believe that all human life is valuable no matter what state it is in, and no life can be valued more than another.

2006-08-28 08:54:22 · answer #2 · answered by The1andOnlyMule 2 · 0 0

"General deterrence" on the other hand, can be summed up as the argument that suggests that members of a society are less likely to commit murder if they will be executed upon conviction of their crime. While on a superficial level that seems to make sense, as noted earlier, there is simply no evidence to support that hypothesis. And yet a completely unproven, some would even say utterly discredited hypothesis is the one upon which most arguments for the legal killing of human beings rests.

Studies have indicated that, more than the ultimate punishment, the deterrence that has any effect on those susceptible to deterrence is the likelihood of getting caught. That is to say, that when a criminal (of any sort, not just murderers) is making the Dostoevskyan calculus of crime versus punishment, the severity of the punishment is of far less significance than the estimated probability of detection. If a person is thinking of robbing a store, simply getting caught forms the largest part of the decision making process; whether he will do five years or seven probably doesn't even enter the equation.

2006-08-28 08:38:47 · answer #3 · answered by TheZeon 2 · 1 0

Well, the death penalty questions always confuse me. I've always thought "eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth". It's in the Bible. I don't think they should use the death penalty though because it's an easy way out. I think the criminal should have to suffer the same way that their victims did. Especially when it involves children.

2006-08-28 08:37:19 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There is no such thing as Pro-life and for the Death Penalty.
I'm 100% against Abortion.
I'm 100% for Capital Punishment.

Why? Because God Himself is.

State Laws on Abortion, in regards to Funeral Home Directors, by: The Department of Human Services.

It is wrong according too man and Christianity.

1.) When a fetus weighs 11.3 ounces, or 20 weeks of term, whichever comes first. The baby dies, it has to have a Birth Certification and Death Certificate.

2.) When a fetus is less than 350 Grams and dies, it needs a Fetus Death Certificate.

3.) A fetus/baby is a live human being after it meets the above criteria, according too law.

4.) a nonlife needs no Death Certificate. [ It had to be a Life, to be declared dead.]

5.) A baby is a live human being even according too man, and will remain so, until man's law changes.

6.) By man's own definition as too Life: You tell me who is contradicting themselves.

7.) A fetus/baby is a live human being at conception, according to God, and will remain that way until YOU or someone else proves with the Word of GOD, that it isn't.

Capital Punishment?. Yes

Is killing terror leaders wrong?

The Detroit Free Press
A very, very good question found there. Let's see what is again happening: “Suicide attacks push limits when the bombers are kids” – [Michael Matza – Knight Ridder newspapers]. We were all shocked at what happened there. “Palestinian youth believe that if killed fighting for Islam, they will go to heaven and delight in the company of beautiful virgins” – [World Magazine]. And here you see Hussam Abdu, a 16-year-old boy who had that bomb strapped to his body and he gave up. He did not want to die. Well, “The U.S. blocks U.N. Security Council rebuke of Israel. [USA Today, Bill Nichols & Barbara Slavin]. you know, i am absolutely shocked that they're using children to commit suicide in order to promote their terrorism.
A sheik, Ahmed Yassin, trained these children and they put him to death and everyone is complaining now. Wait a minute! Don't you believe the Bible? The Bible says in the Noahic Covenant, “Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by him shall man's blood be shed”, Genesis 9:5,6. Under the Mosiac Covenant, Exodus 20 verse 13, “Thou shall not kill”. The Hebrew there is murder. Turn the page. “He that smites a man so that he dies shall be put to death", Leviticus 24:17.
This man was training these little children to put bombs in their body and this kid says, “They gave me $25 and told me I'd have 72 virgins”. What would a 16-year-old do with them? He probably wouldn't know what to do. How sad. Yet this man who was killed was behind all of this. What did you say, Jesus? In Mark 9:42, “Whosoever shall offend one of these little children that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck and he were cast into the sea.”

Now, that sounds like capital punishment to me. You drop a guy into the sea and he's gone. And the policemen and military men are ministers of God and they bear not the sword in vain, Romans 13:14. That's not for peeling potatoes. I say murderers should be put to death. Even some of these juveniles who are killing everyone around this country.
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2006-08-28 09:27:48 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

But in the bible God sanctioned killing, ordered killing & promise to kill if his requirements are not met. So do not misquote the bible to prove your point. Killing a defenseless unborn child is different 2 killing a mass murderer or a person who brutally & willfully & coldheartedly murder someone. How can u compare saving a foetus to saving Charles Manson.
I am pro-life but I have a 6yr. old son & I would wholeheartedly kill any adult who deliberately set out to abuse him or cause him serious harm. For me pro-life is about protecting the lifes of the innocent who do not have a voice. Not saving Jack the ripper.

2006-08-28 08:42:15 · answer #6 · answered by Ethslan 5 · 2 0

That one escapes me as well. Can't wait to see the fuzzy logic some of these people come up with. Personally I am pro-choice and pro-death penalty.

2006-08-28 09:28:10 · answer #7 · answered by Stephen 6 · 0 1

As your question suggests, the religious Right in the U.S. favors the death penalty and opposes abortion as "murder."

No matter which side of the abortion debate you're on, there's no moral logic in opposing abortions as "murder" and supporting the death penalty.

I'm not a Catholic, but I appreciate the consistency of the Catholic Church's view that both are wrong.

2006-08-28 08:45:29 · answer #8 · answered by johntadams3 5 · 1 0

I believe in "The Seamless Garment" in Life issues. I understand self-defence, defending family, and defending nations. Just War is part of this self-defence issue.

Abortion, Euthanasia, Capital Punishment. Poverty, Equal Rights, etc each should be judged by the Life Issues. Abortion is first because it is first in the creation of human existence and life.

2006-08-28 08:36:37 · answer #9 · answered by Lives7 6 · 0 0

The justification I have heard is that the baby did nothing more to deserve punishment than to simply exist. A convicted criminal, however, inflicted some kind of harm on another person to warrant capital punishment.

I, on the other hand, am both in favor of safe and legal abortion AND capital punishment. So you can't call me a hypocrite.

2006-08-28 08:37:01 · answer #10 · answered by Gumdrop Girl 7 · 0 1

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2016-11-05 23:22:10 · answer #11 · answered by fleitman 4 · 0 0

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