This is one of those questions that will either get you endless Wikipedia quotes, or a long list of "G.I. Jane" detractors.
Here's an answer to your question:
(1) You cannot "sue the military" - your target in this case would be the Department of the Navy or DoD, depending on how high you want to pursue it. Thanks to something called "immunity from prosecution while serving in office", you cannot sue anyone from the legislative or executive branches over this matter.
(2) The current policy was put into effect in 1994 under President Clinton. This reinforced a longstanding policy prohibiting the participation of women in combat arms. In fact, this policy prohibits the assignment of women in ANY combat unit below Brigade Level tasked with a "direct combat role" (think infantry, artillery, etc).
(3) The policy is already broken because there are females serving below Brigade level in practice, deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. However, this is no excuse for allowing the entire policy to fall by the wayside. The ban on women in combat arms MOS's still stands.
There have been a number of studies done on the effectiveness of women in the military. Much has been made of females fighting in the Red Army or other examples of history. Keep in mind the vast majority of units other than partisans employed females in segregated units. You, Questioner, are asking to be integrated into historically all-male units.
The chances of an integrated unit functioning successfully across the gender divide is minimal, at best. While women are employed in certain capacities around the world (the ROK Special Forces employ some women for subterfuge, various security services routinely integrate women) it is entirely unlikely that you would succeed in any legal action to overturn the ban in the United States. The number of reasons for this are too detailed to list here; this is not a cop-out, merely a statement of fact. Were you a trailblazer and actually passed through every step of the SEAL selection process, ask yourself if the American public would be prepared for one of its daughters to become, say, a POW, brutalized and raped for propaganda purposes; or KIA, body being dragged through the streets by some Third World mob.
If it is the "door-kicking, trigger-pulling" lifestyle you crave, law enforcement does not recognize a formal impediment to your ambitions. FBI SWAT, and even specialized units at the local level are far more open to you and amenable to change than a hallowed special operations unit with great traditions.
The answer, in short, is no, you cannot sue the Navy or DoD and hope to win - but there are other ways to fulfill the call to arms. In the meantime, pray for societal attitudes to change enough for one of your grandchildren to make the bid you in this day and age cannot.
2006-08-28 03:08:23
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answered by Nat 5
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Are you in the military? There is a little fine print in your contract when you sign with the military stating that you are not allowed to sue the government. Don't hang me, i don't know the details, but do remember signing that part that states I am not allowed to sue the military or the government, so no, you can't. Also, i have 2 friends that are SEALS, and trust me, females don't belong there. I was infantry, and am happy with that, I honestly don't see a female being able to hack that program physically or mentally.
2006-08-28 05:01:27
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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I doubt very much you can unless you have met all the entrance requirements, passed all the testing and still are rejected. 70% of men who apply to the SEALS also fail and they dont sue. The SEALS is possible the most demanding Special Forces Unit we have. You simply must be the absolute best to make it. Getting in because of color or sex weakens the integrity of the unit as a whole. before long the floodgates would open and every mediocre applicant would be demanding 'Special treatment". It must remain for the best of the best only.
2006-08-28 02:56:30
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answered by Kevin P 3
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No, Congress made it LAW, in the NAVY you cannot be on submarines or a SEAL
By law, only men are eligible to apply for the SEAL program. After joining the Navy, you must:
* Meet specific eyesight requirements.
* Meet minimum Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) score.
* Be 28 years old or less.
* Be a U.S. citizen.
* Pass a diving physical examination.
* Complete the Physical Screening Test Requirements. The program is as follows:
o Swim 500 Yards within 12:30
o Rest 10:00
o 42 push-up within 2:00
o Rest 2:00
o 50 sit-ups within 2:00
o Rest 2:00
o 6 pull-ups (no time limit)
o Rest 10:00
o 1.5 mile run within 11:00
* Pass a Basic Underwater Demolition/SEALS (BUD/S) physical fitness-screening test in Boot Camp and in the Delayed Entry Program (DEP) in order to qualify for a SEAL contract.
* If you want to join the Navy and take the SEAL Challenge, Locate a Recruiter.
STEP 1: CHOOSE A SEAL SOURCE RATING
All NSW/NSO careers have individual source ratings.
* Seal: SO
* SWCC: SB
* EOD: EOD
* Diver: ND
STEP 2: TRAINING
* BUD/S Indoctrination: (5 weeks — Coronado, CA)
* BUD/S Phase I: Physical conditioning (2 months — Coronado, CA)
* BUD/S Phase II: Diving (2 months — Coronado, CA)
* BUD/S Phase III: Weapons, demolitions and small unit tactics (2 months — Coronado, CA)
* Parachute Jump School: (1 month — Ft. Benning, GA)
* Advanced Sea, Air and Land Training: (5 months — Coronado, CA)
STEP 3: ADVANCED TRAINING/PLACEMENT
* Graduation and Receive Naval Special Warfare Classification — (NEC) Opportunities for Advanced Training.
* Report to First SEAL Team or SEAL Delivery Vehicle (SDV) Team (Virginia Beach, VA, Pearl Harbor, HI or Coronado, CA).
* Individual Specialty Training (6 months).
* Unit Level Training while assigned to a SEAL platoon or SDV task unit (6 months).
* Task Group Level Training (6 months).
STEP 4: DEPLOYMENT AND COMBAT OPERATIONS
A diver inderneath seaweed, carying a gun
A typical SEAL mission could involve insertion into an objective by parachute, submarine, helicopter, high-speed boat, foot patrol or by a combat swimmer insertion. SEALs are also capable of operating a variety of high-tech, specialized equipment. Most deployments last 6 to 8 months.
think you could handle that ????
2006-08-27 23:50:37
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answered by cherokeeflyer 6
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If you have the money Lawyers will sue anyone for anything. The Seals are not a club you can insist on joining because you want the badge or its cool because you saw actors playing Seals in movies.
2006-08-28 01:58:39
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answered by Anonymous
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I suppose you could, but it would hardly be fair.
The bottom line is, that females are just as good soldiers... It's just that they affect males with their mere presence. Think of the military being a huge pack of baboons. Right now, they are busy "defending the tribe" and are in cooperative mode... but when females come along they might go into the "secure a mate mode" which results in internal competition, which is not beneficial for cooperation.
It's all well and good if the female things she can handle it, yet most of the men are in the military are testosterone monsters. :D
So, yeah, don't sue them- it's really no ones fault.
2006-08-27 22:48:35
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answered by dane 4
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No way, who do u think you are, the president or something?
Girls can't be Seals for a reason and that is because they will fail. Only 10-20% pass while 80% fail and decide to quit. What makes you think women are gonna pass?
It's for your own good, just be a cook or something. That's what women supposed to do anyway. (No offense)
2006-08-28 12:17:48
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answered by Smiles_187 2
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I think somebody seen GI Jane one too many times, and for the record that wasn't actually a normal SEALs training session, but was CRT Combined Reconnaissance Team.
2006-08-28 00:12:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Have you *seen* that movie? Do you *really* want to open that can of worms? I've talked to Seals, and they said what I saw in that movie was chicken sh1t compared to what *really* happens. And they don't keep us out because they think we can't handle it... but because of the male instinct to protect a female. All a capturing force would have to do is start torturing the woman, and all the men would start spilling their guts. We can handle it, they can't... and there's just too many of them to make it an all girl thing.
2006-08-27 22:49:07
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answered by MotherBear1975 6
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Sure, you can. If you want to waste your money. It's not the military that's discriminating, it's the government with the consent of the majority of the US population.
If you want this changed, you have to go to Congress.
2006-08-28 00:35:42
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answered by My world 6
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