genesis 19:30... clearly states that incest is ok, how do you feel?

Question

in genesis, god saw it as ok because the two daughters didn't have any other suitable man to 'go in unto them', so they got dad drunk for two nights so each could have a turn with pa (and yes, daddy was too drunk to remember) because they needed to get pregnant and populate the new land.

Answer 1

just as completely insane as the belief that we're all descended from that one incestual family.

Answer 2

Well, I feel that if you read further, you will realize that incest was later outlawed in Moses time because of its lack of necessity as well as the danger of inbreeding and having screwed up children. Since the Mosaic law forbade it and since it is considered fornication, it is now and still wrong to engage in incest. In times where incest was sometimes due to matters of necessity, like when there was one family on the entire earth and Cain needed to marry his sister or the human population would've been discontinued, God had not outlawed it. The law came in place because incest was no longer needed for populating the earth. It was pointless and there would be a lot of sick kids from all the inbreeding if God had let incest carry on. But if incest didn't exist with the first humans, we wouldn't be here.

Answer 3

Did God condone Lot’s getting drunk and fathering sons by his two daughters?

God condones neither incest nor drunkenness. (Leviticus 18:6, 7, 29; 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10) Moreover, Abraham’s nephew Lot deplored the “lawless deeds” of Sodom’s inhabitants and evidently grieved over the wrong conduct in which he himself got involved, for the Examiner of hearts viewed him as “righteous.” (2 Peter 2:8) The very fact that Lot’s daughters got him intoxicated suggests that they realized he would not consent to having sexual relations with them while he was sober. But as aliens in the land, his daughters felt that this was the only way to prevent the extinction of Lot’s family. The account is in the Bible not to arouse erotic thoughts but to reveal the relationship of the Moabites and the Ammonites to Abraham’s descendants, the Israelites.

Answer 4

The story of Lot, his wife and his daughters reads like a misogynist's dream and normal person's nightmare.

He offered his virgin daughters to the mob in place of two strangers in Sodom for the purpose of . . . sodomy!

His poor, hapless wife lost her life and was converted to a salt pillar (I believe the whole story was invented solely for the purpose of explaining the many salt pillars in that area) simply for one glance, just like a character in the Greco-Roman mythology stories.

Then his mistreated and already-maligned daughters get blamed for inciting incest (how patriarchal to put the onus on the poor young girls) which is excused as perfectly okay.

Did you ever notice that no one ever recommends going in and reading scatter-shot in the bible? Tales are carefully excised to leave out the particularly gory or immoral parts when prepared for general consumption. No wonder churches have 'groups' for bible study--they want to steer you past sections like this one!! If no other vignette proved to me that the bible was simply a collection of tall tales, reading this story did it for me. I was 12 at the time, and I'll never forget it.

I read some of the comments above, where people said that those were different times, when incest was acceptable. This is a great reason why the bible should be permanently retired as a moral guide and treated as a fairy tale book about olden times. Nobody needs such primitive hokum in a work that is supposed to be taken seriously and apply to our lives today.

There are much better moral guides than the bible ever was, and it is totally irrelevant now, as proven by the defending comments to this ridiculous story.

Answer 5

Oh!

That book was written by Satan, as were all the other books in that collection.

Dont you know that Luke is short for Lucifer?

Luke and Lucifer and Satan formed their own Trinity long before the Vatican called it by that name, and now every litlle preacher and his flock of innocent sheep talk about Jesus who was invented by the Lucifer Trinity.

Do you know that sheep will really follow anything that moves, just like all these born and born-again and gone-again Christians?

There is incest in the Trinity, the one with the father and the son and the holy dove, but that does not make incest ok.

The Bible shows no respect whatever for civilised society nor for prophets, but comes from the Greek pagans and their Zeus God who walks around heaven all day naked and uncircumcised.

Incest is of the Devil.

Answer 6

No it doesn't your reading something into the passage that's not there. After God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot went in to the mountains with his two daughters . It was the Daughters that got their father drunk and seduced Him while he was drunk and unconsciousness. That was Lust on the daughters part as they said they had no other men to lie with so far from other people.that they used their father to satisfy their own lusts.

Answer 7

You are wrong.

Genesis 19:30 simply states he and his two daughters lived in a cave. If you're going to attack the Bible and Christianity, at least use the correct verse.

Yes - they got dad drunk and got jiggy with him.
No - God did not see it as OK.

Answer 8

It is good that you can read. now find where is was OK and approved of by God. This is a story of the life of Lot and what he did and happened to him.
I would suppose by your reasoning it would be OK to crucify someone because that is mentioned in scripture , it is OK to commit adultery for that is talked about or it would be OK to commit any sin just because it is mentioned in scripture.
Now go back to Gen. 19:30 and reread it and find incest is OK. it is not there at no time in the space of that text does it ever say incest is OK.
It just tells a story of incest that happened.

I copyed these verses for you in case you need a portion of scripture taken from the bible to read.
30. Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave.
31. One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth.
32. Let's get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father."
33. That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and lay with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
34. The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I lay with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and lie with him so we can preserve our family line through our father."
35. So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went and lay with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
36. So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father.
37. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab ; he is the father of the Moabites of today.
38. The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi ; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.

Answer 9

I think you are taking this the wrong way. Back then things were A LOT different then now. Now we have millions upon millions of people to populate the world with, as for then, they only had family mostly. Times have changed hun.

Answer 10

Just because something is IN the bible does not mean it is sanctioned or condoned. Murder and rape is in the bible too.

The two daughters you speak of gave birth to Moab and Ammon, who later gave rise to rival nations east of Jordan.

Let me spell it out for you.

The two daughters committed a grave sin.

Answer 11

Guess what... you didn't post a shocking revelation to any Bible reader here. AND... believe it or not its been asked and answered 100 times this week!

Before the Earth was heavily populated, people had to procreate with family members but once there were more than enough people, God made it LAW that we do not do that anymore. How hard is that?