Does Christianity appeal to you when you realize Hitler might be in heaven while his Jewish victims r in Hell?

Question

Fact: Hitler would be in Heaven if he repented and did not commit suicide (and we only have Stalin's word that Hitler commited suicide).

Fact: Revelation 21:8 states "the ...unbelieving...shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brmstone: which is the second death."

Fact: Jews do not believe in the divinity of Jesus.

Want to join a religion that allows Hitler into Heaven while condemning all his Jewish victims to Hell?

Rangedog: No they wouldn't. You've forgotten the sanctity of the confessional.

Before I select the Best Answer I wanted to make a couple of points:

1. I do not subscribe to the idea that Hitler is in Heaven and his victims are in Hell.

2. That said, according to the theory that we attain heaven by grace alone, this is the logical conclusion: that -a- Hitler could attain Heaven while his victims, non-Christians, roast in Hell.

3. There is something seriously wrong with a religion that can admit to heaven a repentant Hitler but reject his victims because of their faith.

Answer 1

That right there is the main reason I turned away from Christianity.

Answer 2

The condition of acceptance is to repent and accept...

Anyone is welcome to do that no matter what they do with their time on this planet.

We all make bad choices. In the beginning, Hitler saved a nation and was a charismatic hero to the German people giving them form and focus, intent and purpose where before him they had none.

He had obvious reasons for doing what he did in the beginning... but he went nuts and became a power hungry syphalitic, drug addicted madman who assumed that mass genocide was the solution to a problem keeping him from becomming the next messiah to the world. As I said, it is always a problem where you are asked to come out from any oppression to follow one person over another. The latter will always become just another form of the same tyrant in the end. Power does that to people.

I believe that suicide is an unforgiven sin because there is no chance for an unbeliever to ask forgivness but if you are under the original blood shed of JC then pretty much anything you DO is forgiven if you accept that forgivness.

The spirit and the soul work on completely different systems than the human intellect and understanding. Energy knows only its direction and the details of the journey are not important to its end result. Electrical current does not care about the wire that carries it and if it is somehow flawed and messes up the conductivity, a fire results and the fire doesn't care about the electricity that started it once it has enough oxygen to burn.

Human beings only use 1/5 of their brain and only comprehend that little of a whole being that loves unconditionally and forgives even these atrocities. It is a quality of God, it is divine understanding.

Questions like these only serve to call attention to the incidents and instances of difference between the divine right action and the negative human reactions and the predjudice that always comes to divide as a direct result. The Jews understand this principal. and you, for posing this question in the way that you have... are no better than Hitler in his tactics of seperation and division. You realize that right?

Forgivness is forgivness to God because to God sin is sin... There is not rating system to decide what is worse than what... "To God, a liar is as guilty as a murderer, sin is sin." It is in the Bible.

I highly doubt that Hitler asked for divine grace or forgivness because he honestly believed in his own righteousness.

"Sin is only sin unto a man if he believes it to be so."

The Jews however, are innocents and God's chosen people who attone for Sin during their religious holidays and jubilee's. They are with God... Not Hitler. But no one really knows until we all get to where our wires will lead us... Right?

Check your wiring... it could be flawed and into a fire you go without a care in the world for how you got there!

Spirit is energy... everything vibrates... everything is God!

Answer 3

Humans are the luckiest inhabitants on the universe, they are all so loved by God that all they need do is ask for salvation and heaven is theirs.

Hitler was not sorry. He was a sociopath--incapable of feeling remorse for the things he had done to others--he objectified all people, they were things to him. He may however have been sorry to have gotten caught. As far as hating the Jewish people, I'm not so convinced that he he so much hated them as he needed a way to fund his war and they were unfortunately the ones with the money in the closest proximity. After all war is seldom about religion, or civil rights, but more who gets the money and power resulting from it. Hitler had world domination in mind.

Answer 4

It occurs to me Bob that you are actually falling into the same trap of some Christians who like to pull individuals verses from the bible and, after giving it a literal interpretation, use the words from Holy scripture in an unholy way. You can do better...you're too bright for that...or are you challenging us to dig into our deeper selves to find the compassionate answer. If so, great. But please be aware that nonbelievers who read this are finding justification for remaining closed to considering that there may be something more to this whole Christianity thing than a surface examination can possibly reveal. This is a convenient excuse and many will say "yeah, what HE said".

So to answer to your charge, which I assume is the real reason for your question...

Here's my interpretation or Rev. 21:8

"unbelieving"= one who does not know God. I am not anywhere near saying Jews do not know God (nor Muslims for that matter) because they do not embrace the trinity. For those who have not heard the gospel, the bible says that those people will be judged by the law written on their hearts. The compassionate way to interpret that is to admit that people who have been raised in certain cultures or belief systems may be unable to "hear" the gospel message. Yet if you allow that those people may be quite connected to their creator within their own system of law, then they would be believers, trusting that God (Allah, Yaweh) is their Lord. So faithful Jews? I have no problem or biblical conflict with seeing them as with God after death.

Hitler, seemed in so many ways to have a hard heart. It is easier for me to imagine him as an unbeliever...whatever he may have professesd during his lifetime- his actions certainly did not indicate a relationship with the holy God. If he made sincere confession and asked for forgiveness before his death, then yes, I believe God would forgive his wayward child and welcome him home. Do I think it likely that Hitler had a deathbed change of heart? No.

I don't have the wisdom to judge perfectly or to even know how God would judge. But what I do have access to is the love of God. And the love of God, if I perceive it rightly, would embrace faithful Jews and then introduce them to the fullness of Himself.

I know for many of you Christians, this will offend. Please open your hearts in prayer and let the spirit speak to you. It is okay to be stretched. Remember, God is love. That's basic.

Answer 5

Many believe Hitler was an antichrist so there is no way he could ever be in heaven. Like Judas Iscariot, Hitler committed suicide. He was a coward and a loser. Why are you remembering Hitler? He's a disgusting, dead, coward whose memory I spit on. He's burning in Hell right now. God is just.
Jesus Christ was born Jewish. He is the Messiah and when He lived here on earth, He followed Jewish law and teaching. Jewish people have a covenant with God. I believe God gives all people the opportunity to either reject or accept Him. Somehow God reveals His truth to all men. It might be right before you die like the thief on the cross next to Jesus. He accepted Jesus at the last moments of his life. Only God knows. God is good, merciful and just. His thoughts are not our thoughts. I place my faith in Jesus Christ who made a way for me to be with Him in eternity after I leave this earthly plane. Salvation is first for the Jews and then for the Gentiles.If you are Jewish accepting Jesus does not mean rejecting your heritage. There is a remnant. There are many Messianic Jews who follow Jewish tradition and accept Jesus Christ as the true Messiah. http://www.chick.com/information/general/salvation.asp

Answer 6

It's a decision in the heart, if Hitler decided like the thief on the cross that Jesus is God then yes he will be in heaven and as far as God is concerned he deserves to becuase he made the right choice. We arnt making the rules of who gets into heaven and who goes to hell, God is.

Answer 7

Adolph Hitler is not in heaven. Their is no reason to believe that he could have or did repent. He was a deceived and evil man who is not in heaven. We do not know the state of his victims. Why do you assume Hitler repented and not his victims?

Answer 8

Only God will determine who goes to heaven and who goes to hell... that would include Hitler, those who commit suicide, those of the Jewish faith, those of the Muslim faith, etc. As for the religions, we'll always have squabbling... but God has the final word on the subject. You'll please recall that even our Lord pointed out that the despised Samaritan was actually the good neighbor... and he will not go without his reward.

Answer 9

The fact that God can and will forgive us of our sins no matter the sin that we have committed makes him great. He does not place conditions on our forgiveness thank goodness for that. He gives us all no matter who we are or what we have done an equal chance at salvation. Just like the thieves on the cross with Jesus one accepted his forgiveness and he was taken to heaven beside Jesus. What a wonderful Lord we have that he can look beyond the evils we have committed and accept us and love us just the way we are.
But just remember because he has forgiven us it does not exempt us from having to answer to the law of man.

Answer 10

Maybe Hitler had Last Rites

Answer 11

Hitler was too a christian! according to Mien Kampf which was a book WRITTEN BY HITLER HIMSELF he was christian. Oh and to all of you that think repenting whould actually do something theres always the Karma law, you reap what you sow is the karma law, if he killed millions and thinks he can get away with it he whould be killed in turn.