I'm curious to see if anyone can find a chapter and verse that talks about God wanting us to have "free will".
2006-08-27
01:28:26
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Aah Ludd, where would Christian insanity be without you? ;-)
2006-08-27
01:39:14 ·
update #1
Nice try, Carol, but that verse is talking about Jesus, Son of God. No one argues that God has a choice. The question is whether humans have a choice. And Isaiah (in fact, a prophecy in Isaiah about a future event) is a long way from Genesis and Eden.
2006-08-27
01:42:05 ·
update #2
Kepha: I've reviewed several of your references (and will review them all before I pick an answer) and I have not found a quote that says God grants us free will.
Predestination argues in favour of fate, a notable antithesis of free will.
2006-08-27
01:50:27 ·
update #3
Rangedog: they look more like rules regarding sacrifice (ie, no one can force another to make sacrifice). This does not appear to be an argument that God granted us free will to accept God or not.
2006-08-27
01:53:11 ·
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Dt.30:19
I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life.
Joshua 24:15
Choose you this day whom ye will serve.... But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
You have choices, the free will to chose.
That's all there is to free will the ability to chose, or even chose at random.
2006-08-27 05:15:29
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answered by Grandreal 6
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Too many all people is rapid to declare loose will, that's in simple terms that none of this is to be needed if we can't seem to God for salvation. we are able to locate financial disaster and verse everywhere in the Bible that announces that we are able to make daily judgements. loose will interior the theological experience can't be checked out as a contemporary if we stand to blame in the previous the Lord, no count what selection we make. If we declare to have the flexibility to % him, then his omniscience is long gone, and we are left with a God not worth to be worshiped if he's relegated to begging and pleading with us for our own salvation. We might besides be praying to ourselves.
2016-12-14 12:50:30
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answer #2
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answered by starich 4
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Isaiah 7:15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.
There's your free will to choose.
2006-08-27 01:34:33
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answered by Anonymous
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Found verses about using free will.
Hope this answers for you.
Philomon 14:
(ESV) but I preferred to do nothing without your consent in order that your goodness might not be by compulsion but of your own free will.
(DRB) But without thy counsel I would do nothing: that thy good deed might not be as it were of necessity, but voluntary.
Num 15:3
(ASV) and will make an offering by fire unto Jehovah, a burnt-offering, or a sacrifice, to accomplish a vow, or as a freewill-offering, or in your set feasts, to make a sweet savor unto Jehovah, of the herd, or of the flock;
(Bishops) And will make an offering by fire vnto the Lorde, namely a burnt offering, or a sacrifice to fulfill a vowe, or a free offering, or in your principall feastes, to make a sweete sauour vnto the Lorde, of the heard, or of the flocke:
(Darby) and will make an offering by fire to Jehovah, a burnt-offering or a sacrifice for the performance of a vow, or as a voluntary offering, or in your set feasts, to make a sweet odour to Jehovah, of the herd or of the flock,
Lev 1:3
(KJVR) If his offering be a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish: he shall offer it of his own voluntary will at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD.
2006-08-27 01:37:03
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answered by rangedog 7
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There is none. The idea of free will came about to explain why Satan, Adam, and Eve failed to obey.
2006-08-27 01:44:14
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answered by Watching Krow 1
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Eph. 1:5 - Paul teaches that God “predestined” us in love to be His sons through Jesus Christ. "Predestination" means that God knows what we will do before we do it (it does not mean that God determines what we do; otherwise, we would have no freewill).
Predestination is taken from the Greek word "prooridzo" which means to know or declare in advance by God’s foreknowledge. See, for example, 1 Peter 1:2 where Peter writes about the “elect according to the foreknowledge of God.” The terms “predestination” and “the elect” always refer to God’s knowledge (not human knowledge) because God is outside of time (and humans cannot predict the future).
There are two types of "predestination," to grace and to glory. In this verse, Paul is teaching about predestination to grace, which means becoming a Christian.
1 Pet. 1:1-2 – Paul teaches about being destined by God for obedience to Christ. This is another example of predestination to grace. But there is also predestination to glory.
Rom. 8:29-30 – Paul also writes that we are predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son. Now Paul is writing about predestination to glory, which means not only becoming a faithful Christian during our lives, but persevering to the end by conforming our will to Christ's will.
1 Cor. 15:49 – Paul writes that we are conformed in His image at the resurrection, when we shall bear the image of the man of heaven. These are the people who were predestined to glory.
Rev. 3:5 – Jesus warns that He can blot out the names that are in the book of life. This refers to those currently, not ultimately, justified (those who are predestined to grace, but not to glory).
Eph. 1:5; 1 Peter 1:2; Rom. 8:29-30; 1 Cor. 15:49 - therefore, predestination is either to grace (which we could lose) or to glory (which we cannot lose). As alluded to above, some non-Catholics confuse the definition of "predestination" (which means God knows what we will do before we do it) and "predetermination" (the erroneous belief that God determines what we will do). But God does not author evil. We choose evil by our own freewill.
Ezek. 18:23-24, 32 - God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. Our death is our freewill, failing to respond to His grace. God does not predetermine certain people to hell. God also does not predetermine certain "elect" people to heaven. We all, as God's children, have been given the grace we need to be saved, but we can decide to reject God's grace.
2 Peter 3:9 – God is forbearing toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. God wills all to be saved, but our salvation depends on our willingness to repent and receive God’s grace.
Matt. 18:14 - Jesus says it is not the will of the Father that any of the children should perish. But He did not make us robots and respects the freewill He has given us. If we did not have this freewill, we would not be able to love, and if we would not be able to love, we would not have been created in God's image and likeness.
Acts 10:35, 45 - these texts show that non-Christians can also be saved if they fear God, even though they haven't formally accepted Jesus as Savior at an altar call. They just do not have the fullness of the means of salvation.
1 Tim. 2:4 - God desires all men to be saved. But our freewill may choose to reject God's grace. In order for our gift of freewill not to be a sham, God must also give us the freedom to reject Him.
2 Pet. 3:9 - the Lord doesn't wish that any should perish, but come to full repentance.
James 1:13-14 - God tempts no one. Each person is tempted by his own desire. God gives us freewill to cooperate with Him or reject Him.
1 Cor. 10:13 - God permits temptation, but does not author temptation. God also provides us sufficient grace to overcome any temptation.
John 3:16-17 - God so loved the world He sent His Son, that the world might be saved (not that only the "elect" might be saved).
John 4:42 - Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world (not just the Savior of the elect). Some will perish by their own choosing.
Rom. 5:6,18 - Christ died for the ungodly (all of us), and His righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men (not just the elect).
2 Cor. 5:14-15 - Christ has died for all (not just the elect), that those who live might live for Him.
1 Tim. 2:6 - Jesus Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all (not just for the elect). But only those predestined to glory will be saved.
1 Tim. 4:10 - our hope is on the living God who is the Savior of all men (not just the elect).
Titus 2:11 - for the grace of God has appeared for the salvation of all men (not just the elect).
1 John 2:2 - Christ is the expiation for the sins of the whole world (not just the elect). But not all are predestined to glory because of their own choosing.
1 John 4:14 - again, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world (not just the Savior of the elect
2006-08-27 01:34:37
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answered by Anonymous
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if you want to see adam and eve and god go on that fantasy ride in kentucky that cost 25million
2006-08-27 02:21:24
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answered by Anonymous
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