I was just wondering if you could breed a mother dog with her son, or father with daughter?

Question

have breed this way before, but had someone tell me that i should not breed like this, so if anyone knows anything that could help me or knows the answer i would greatly appreciate it.

Answer 1

I don't think you should breed them because they are closely related together - the puppies could have problems.

Answer 2

For those so against inbreeding, there are plenty of outbred (unrelated, same breed) and crossbred dogs with genetic problems that every vet sees every day. What's with that? Simply, it is just plain _lousy breeding_ that is the cause of genetic problems. People want a cheap dog and get a doozy from a breeder having a fire sale. No wonder dog health and veterinary costs are in so much trouble.

For C_M_:
They might be a good nick, but you have to evaluate it.
What is the coefficient of inbreeding on either parent before you breed them? Which traits are you trying to improve or concentrate? Are they polygenic traits, recessive traits, dominant? Additive traits?

There's an interesting method to do some pedigree analysis. Dr Carmen Battalgia lectures about some of this. A random page with some of his info is here.
http://www.caninechronicle.com/Features/battaglia_05/battaglia_805.html

In all your previous litters, did you track their life spans? Their occlusion? Their temperament, breed character and their adherence to the breed standard? Does that young male double up on the same faults as the female? Which of his good traits are stronger? what about her?

Does that someone that talked to you know something about your bloodline that wasn't mentioned here? Or were they talking about something they think they vaguely understand but weren't sure they heard about properly?

In your assessment and/or if you showed your dogs were the angulations and toplines correct for the breed? What about movement? How about head shape? What about the missing teeth if any. How were their thyroid tests, their patella screens, were there any ACL problems and hip dysplasia? Some breeds have different problems than others. Some may have issues with blindness or with cardiac or hepatic function. What about PKU? Do you measure these elements with genetic tests? or x-ray vision?

Whew! Those are a lot of questions. When a breeder breeds and wants to make the healthiest and best looking, best working specimens of their breed and have the happiest pet homes that come back to them a decade later for another dog, they have to do this math. It's a lot of work. No one has it easy.

So don't feel overwhelmed but you can get started on these things now.

As a serious breeder, you keep record of this type of data and with several generations you would have data on dozens of dogs in your bloodline. Based on this data, and on objective evaluation of your stock, you can decide whether it is time to inbreed or not and decide on which leg of the family tree you want to take from.

You would be able to reach back into those older bloodlines that you have been keeping track of and give your current dogs a zap back into the past if they needed the old genetics. (maybe the headshapes and ear sets were better back when)

Inbreeding should be used only as a tool, not as a continuous or routine function in maintaining healthy bloodlines. I've followed several bloodlines of different breeds, and the breeders were always careful to use their own bloodline via more distant line breeding and only to outcross very rarely to new bloodlines. Sometimes they outcrossed to a nice champion, only to find that their litter had issues such as entropion or cowhocks, easty westy feet or were prone to bloat.

Breeding is not for the shortsighted, but anyone with a true love for their breed can get involved and learn.
A guideline available at OFA that is part of the backbone of my vision is at this link
http://offa.org/hovanart.pdf
"Collecting and utilizing phenotypic data to minimize disease: A breeder’s practical guide"

Answer 3

Line breeding is done carefully and ONLY when you know the exact genetics of your dogs. You are able to double up on excellent qualities of your dog (dominant genes) but you also run the risk of pairing up recessive or genetics defects as well. They may not be visible in your dog because the may carry both 'R' (dominant) and 'r' (recessive) genes. The dominant gene will always manifest itself leaving the recessive gene hidden until given the opportunity to paired with another recessive gene...which presents from mild (disqualifying color patterns) to severe (lethal, sub-lethal, and serious birth defects). Please consult with either www.akc.org for a list of responsible breeding practices or/and a local show breeder that can tell you if your dog should be bred at all in the first place. You will always want to make the most ethical and responsible choices when breeding or not breeding your dog. There are many dogs that are purebred waiting for homes in shelters/rescues that have the time clock ticking against them.Please make a responsible and informed choice with your pet.

Answer 4

When you breed mom and son or dad and daughter it is called inbreeding, this could cause some birth defects in the puppies, and health problem later on. Its not a good idea to breed this especially if you have pure breed dogs.

Answer 5

By breeding that way you are reinforcing the bad genes. They become prominent, and you end up throwing pups that could have seizures, or some build feature that you do not want in the dog if it is pure breed and you want to paper them.

You mix your lines to breed a higher quality animal. You look for something in the other person's dog that you want to breed into your line.

Answer 6

you can breed the father to the daughter twice but I would not recommend doing this. Never breed the son to the mother.

Answer 7

Hi, No you shouldn't breed this way.It's call inbreeding and can cause alot of health problems.They say,you can breed daughter to father,i donot believe in any of this.That's one reason the breeds are not up to standards and not as loud as they should be.INBREEDING MAKES THE GENES WEAK.You could also have deform pups.Please don't inbreed!!! You will get a much better pup if you don't.

Clowmy

Answer 8

In breeding creates medical problems for the pups later in life. In breeding leads to an increase in medical problems and will shorten their life span. Of spring of in breed dogs will continue to have problems for many generations, and the more in breeding done the greater the problems found.

Answer 9

Don't do that, the puppies can be deformed or really sick. We raise pit bulls and my brother didn't tell me that the mother dog he had was off the same litter from my male and we let them breed and when she had the pups she killed all but one, and the one that made it had one eye and was so bad we had to put it to sleep. It affects their health a lot, so no, its not a good idea.

Answer 10

Canine clubs do not register litter from incest. In dog terms you can not mate a dog with its immediate relative ( son/daughter, father/mother, brother/sister.) I believe that mating to grandparents, cousins, nephews/nieces are not considered incest to dogs.

As to the effect of incest breeding in dogs, I am not really sure but I believe that canine clubs consider that to be a fault, or that chances are there would come out a freak in the litter.

In other animals like roosters for cockfighting, inbreeding are considered ok up to the 3rd and 4th generation.

Answer 11

It isnt uncommon for some breeders to do this. They arent bred as close as a mother/ son relationship but more like 2nd cousin type. This is to ensure that the breed isnt picking up too many bad qualities from outside of the family lines. That was a step to getting your pet that you love so much.. That is how many different bloodlines were created.

EVERY BLOODLINE WAS CREATED LIKE THIS!!! DONT GIVE STUPID HIPPY ANSWERS LIKE "THIS IS SOOO WRONG"

I am not suggesting someone does this... But IF YOU have a dog, they have been breed back to their own bloodline... My dad is a vet... He explained it all to me... Just passing it along..