God doesn't hate the sinner????

Question

Several resonses have indicated that "God doesn't hate the sinner, he hates the sin." This is directed to you who believe this:

What the heck do you think was going on when God killed all of the Egyptian first born? That wasn't an act of hatred?

What was God doing when (after a battle) he told the Jewish warriors to kill all the enemy's male children and non-virgin women, but to keep all the virgins for themselves?

What was God doing murdering thousands (if not millions) of children and adults in a flood?

What was Jesus doing taking a whip to the money changers in the temple?

What is God doing condemning the majority of humanity to eternal torture?

These are not simple slaps on the wrist. These are out-and-out murderous rage. If anyone on earth behaved only fractionally in this way, they would be locked away.

Where in your bible do you get the idea that your God doesn't hate?

For further scripture, read the response below from "Afriendofkingjesus"

Answer 1

let me think here for a moment IS there a God? and if there is and he is our father why don't any sane people ever get to see him? and maybe you should not look at it like he murdered anyone he may have just spared them but then that goes back to the first question ..........

Answer 2

The Bible is a 2,000-year-old book written by humans. No one really knows what God thinks or feels and won't find out until they die.

Keep in mind that this is the Old Testament God, the one that lots of churches like to use as justification for practicing hate against their fellow man.

While the book has some fantastic lessons, I wouldn't take it as an accurate picture of the type of being God is. A lot of the stuff in it was written by people to guide and protect others - like the whole thing about shellfish.

Personally, I prefer to use my heart in conjunction with common sense. Would God give me free will and expect me not to use it? Would God truly create the Earth as a test as to whether or not you get into the afterlife or does it make more sense that this is one stop on a vast journey of education? If life is so precious to God, would he really be so callous with it?

Answer 3

Friend, your understanding of God is seriously flawed. God is love. God is justice. God is the beginning and the end. God is our judge. God offers salvation to those that will believe on His son Jesus Christ. I don't know where you are getting your interpretation and understanding of scripture, but consider this verse:

2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

As you can see, scripture can easily been misunderstood and twisted by unGodly men. I suggest thoroughly studying scripture for yourself (starting with the gospel of John) and finding a bible believing pastor in your area to help you better understand.

Grace and Peace to you.

Answer 4

God does hate sinners, scripture says this time and time again. However we must realize that this is a right and good hatred. There is a proper place for hatred (Ecclesiastes 3:8, Psalms 97:10, Proverbs 8:13, Psalms 139:21-24)

Here are a few of the Bible passages which show God's hatred of sinners, there are many more than this, but these should suffice for now:

Leviticus 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Leviticus 26:30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcasses upon the carcasses of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

Deuteronomy 32:19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

Psalms 5:5-6
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Psalms 10:3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.

Psalms 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalms 53:5 There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.

Psalms 73:20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

Psalms 78:59 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:

Psalms 106:40 Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.

Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 22:14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.

Lamentations 2:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Zechariah 11:8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul loathed them, and their soul also abhorred me.

Malachi 1:2-3
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:11-13
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

In Christ,
Zach Doty

Answer 5

>
> Why doesn't God end all evil immediately? To end evil God would have to
> destroy the cause of evil people. In His good plan for people (see
> below), it is therefore not good to end all evil immediately.
>
> Why doesn't God make people unable to cause suffering?
>
> To do that, God would have to take away our ability to choose. But
> choice free will is a good thing. In order to love, you must be able to
> choose to love. Forced love is not love. So to have a universe that
> included love,
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> God had to make us with choice, which includes the choice not to love
> and that makes sin, evil, pain and suffering possible.
>
> Why does God allow natural disaster and disease?
>
> It is a part of a sinful world. God lowered the perfection of creation
> (from the perfect garden of Eden) to match the spiritual state of those
> who live here (Romans 8:20-22).
>
> God graciously has sustained people on this earth (allowing them to
> reproduce, to develop governments and systems to deal with the effects
> of sin).
>
> He has graciously sustained the fallen creation (providing sun and rain
> for food to sustain life
> But the natural effect of a fallen creation is that even good things can
> have evil byproducts (water can drown someone; gravity can kill someone;
> lightening can burn and kill).
>
>
> Why doesn't God stop evil acts that cause innocent people to suffer?
> Why doesn't God miraculously intervene to stop evil acts if He is
> all-loving and all-powerful?
>
>
> Why doesn't He catch the drunk driver's car that is going to crash into
> a bus? Why doesn't He deflect the murderer's bullets? The person asking
> doesn't actually want God to stop all their evil acts.
> They don't want to be invisibly gagged every time they're about to say
> something hurtful; they don't want to stub their toe when they try to
> kick the dog.
>
>
> They just think it would be good if God stopped certain evil acts or
> just the evil acts of others. But that would make life impossible. There
> would be no freedoms, no regularity and no personal responsibility.
>
>
> Why doesn't God let us choose to get out of this suffering?
>
>
> The answer is that He does. That is the
> gracious, loving response of God to the evil condition of this sinful
> world.
>
>
> A. God has provided for personal salvation =96 the promise of eternal
> life in heaven where there is no suffering (Revelation 21:4). One must
> simply put his trust in the payment for sin God provided through
> Christ's death on the cross (John 3:16-18; Acts 10:38-43: etc.).
>
>
> B. God has provided for the earth's redemption
> (Romans 8:18-23; 2 Peter 3:10,13; Revelation 21:1)
>
>
> Your Friend In Christ...
>

Answer 6

Many people, alot of Christians included, try to say that God is only a god of love. They tend to leave out that God is god of righteous fury and a jealous God who will not give His glory to another. God has no tolerance for sin, and it is only by His grace that we are not all destroyed as in the examples you gave. He loves the people, but cannot look upon us if we are not saved, because of our sin.

Answer 7

I really hate to do this to you, but I'm going to have to answer your questions with two rhetorical questions?

Can you punish someone but not hate the person you are punishing?

Can you go to war with and kill someone but not hate the person you are at war with and killing?

And let me throw in one more for good measure.

As humans we tend to believe that death is always bad. But as an omniscient God, is it possible that with all-knowing comes the ability to determine if a person would be better dead then alive?

Answer 8

God doesn't hate the sinner, my friend, he hates the sin and will punish those that continue to live wayward, self centered, sin filled lives.

Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven!!

Answer 9

If I step on a bee that just stung me, do I hate it? No. I may have been angry at it. You're trying to tell us God's emotional state when He caused the flood or destroyed cities. No one can do that. It's possible to be angry without hating.

Answer 10

God punishes sinners friend, he does not like to. Isaiah calls it his "strange work".

And God does not condemn anyone to eternal torture. On the contrary there is no eternal torture.

But we condemn ourselves to eternal damnation by denying Christ.