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the fact is, it only says the us goverment can not be in favor of one religion over another. that is the ACLUs misreprsentation. and they use their lawyer bank to make it too costly for most to challenge in court. thats how they get their way.

2006-08-26 13:14:08 · 15 answers · asked by Work In Progress 3 in Politics & Government Civic Participation

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The ACLU wants to turn our country into a Socialist state. Romero, the leader of the ACLU was the head of the American Communist Party.
The ACLU wants no religion period in our country. Its done one step at a time. Remember, in the Soviet Union, religion and spirituality wasn't allowed.
They sue communities who can't afford to fight back against them and bully their views on to them.
Fortunately, people are wise to them. Groups like The Thomas More Center and others are fighting back against them. And are winning most of the time!
Remember, our forefathers prayed before, during and after the writing of the Constitution. Everybody is free to worship however they want to in our country, the ACLU wants to change that.

2006-08-26 16:42:32 · answer #1 · answered by TG Special 5 · 1 2

There are many, many legal principles that are never mentioned per se in the Constitution, but are implied by the context. The exact phrase, separation of church and state is never used, for example, and neither will you find any statement in the Constitution about the right to privacy or the right to a fair trial, two principles of American social and political thought.

About the "separation" of church and state, however, the Constitution does say, in the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

This statement does imply that the State (Congress) should not favor any religion (such as Iran favoring Islam or Rome favoring Catholics), nor should the state be involved in deciding what is or is not a legitimate religion. It is from this statement and others that over time a "doctrine" of the separation of church and state have evolved (just as the right to a fair trial and the right to privacy have also evolved). If the state wants to get into religion by, for example, supporting religious schools, that is OK so long as ANY religion can get support for their schools, not just some favored church.

2006-08-26 13:30:49 · answer #2 · answered by Pandak 5 · 2 0

Are you serious?

The Constitution is a fluid, "living, breathing," document that has to be interpreted in light of the changes in our society.

The Framers wrote it with the idea that they couldn't spell out every single thing, otherwise it would be too long to even begin to apply. Clearly, the Constitution would require many more amendments and constant re-writing if it weren't so broadly worded.

The Constitution is interpreted by the judges on the Supreme Court, and the separation of church and state has become the accepted interpretation of the clause in question.

If you knew anything about what it takes to get a case before the Supreme Court, you certainly wouldn't blame the ACLU's "lawyer bank" for not being able to "challenge it in court."

The Supreme Court, ITSELF, decides which cases to hear.

Obviously.

2006-08-26 17:32:26 · answer #3 · answered by Seeka007 3 · 0 0

So, as you seem to oppose the church-state separation, may I ask whether this is because you want your religious views enacted into law for all of us to be made to obey, or because you want the government to come into your place of worship and dictate the teachings that will be allowed? I am curious which of those you feel is a justifiable wish.

And by the way, the First Amendment spells out the doctrine: "Congress shall pass no laws respecting an establishment of religion, nor restricting the free exercise thereof ..." I think it goes. That spells out the legal doctrine that has come to be known by a phrase of Thomas Jefferson's (that godless heathen!), "separation of church and state". Granted, the Constitution doesn't contain those exact words, but it also doesn't say anything about a Homeland Security Department, and I don't think anyone has raised any serious Constitutional challenges to its existence. Childish word games are generally unpersuasive on such important questions, and I would recommend avoiding them in the future.

2006-08-26 13:43:37 · answer #4 · answered by BoredBookworm 5 · 2 0

The fact that the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the text of the Constitution is no reason to say that it is not an INTENDED constitutional principle. One of the things that judges always have to do is to remember that they can't always take everything they see in law literally, so that their effort is to understand what the law was INTENDED to mean.

But just using the phrase "separation of church and state" still doesn't provide judges or the rest of us with everything we need to know. The question would still remain: what does the phrase "separation of church and state" mean? That is, what did the phrase mean to our Founding Fathers?

I believe that it means that "church" and "state" must remain separate institutions so that neither one is performing the function that the other is supposed to perform. So, for instance, a state legislature must not surrend its law-making power to a church. The Utah state legislature cannot pass the buck to the Mormon Church and allow that church to make the laws for Utah. Only the elected members of the Utah legislature can make the laws for that state. And the elected members of the Utah state legislature will not necessarily always be Mormons. The constitution prohibits any kind of religious test as a qualification for holding office. So anyone, no matter what their religion, may run for and get elected to the Utah state legislature.

2006-08-26 13:42:34 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

those rules have been common between states which had the "blue rules" years in the past and nonetheless exist on the books. They have been positioned there way earlier the separation difficulty became so vast. some states have tried to alter them, some succeeded. the ten Commandments are merely an occasion of historical rules, the fairly some first recorded as recognizable for a team of folk to persist with, and which a number of our contemporary rules are derived from. A exhibit of those does not advise there is an undue impression from any church on the courtroom.

2016-12-11 15:55:27 · answer #6 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Our constitution is a simple document where we define the philosophy our nation/government is based upon. We use other laws that are created and afforded by the Constitution to define all the details.

There are many other things that constitution does not explicitly state but are illegal. For example, you will not find anywhere murder is illegal, or stealing is illegal.

Separation of Churches and states have been affirmed by the supreme courts.

You really need to study what Constitution is, and ACLU is, before making a statement like this.

2006-08-26 13:24:03 · answer #7 · answered by tkquestion 7 · 3 1

The separation of church and state is not expressly written in the Constitution. It comes from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a baptist church in the early 1800's...this letter helped create what we see in the Constitution known as the Establishment Clause...in which the government is forbidden to promote or create a national religion.

2006-08-26 13:20:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Church should stay out of government and government out of church. Many of the people who came here from England and other places in Europe during the 17th and 18th centuries were escaping religious and political persecution and hope to avoid the same here in setting up their own government and independent nation.

There is not anything wrong with someone in government allowing their ethics, faith, and morals to guide them. However, to force those beliefs onto others or be biased in legislating and enforcing the laws of the land is not what the founding fathers had in mind.

Absence of an offical religion or idealogy doctrine in our system of government in no way restricts an individuals from worshipping or practicing in the faith of one's choice. People have been using the backlash tactic way too much these days. Saying that not having the Ten Commandments in a public court of law infringe on one's religious rights is just plain nutty. Giving our taxes to religious organizations violates our trust that our governments will be prudent and non-biased with our resources. If you want thos organizations to have donations, give directly to them! Insisting that we create laws to restrict the rights of one segment of our population because of another segments views on morality is wrong.

Go to church. Teach your children right or wrong. Help your fellow man. Lead by example. Show compassion to those who were not as fortunate in life. These are signs of a good person, not how much you can force other to abide by your beliefs.

2006-08-26 15:14:24 · answer #9 · answered by Joe D 6 · 1 0

Wow..I like you. In fact the notion of seperation came in a late 1700's letter to a new england pastor that stated that it was important that there never be a seperation of church and state because the state needed the moral guidance. the letter was sent by a president...I honestly forget who...but that's the story. As far as the ACLU goes,I think they are a true enemy of the people.

2006-08-26 13:21:58 · answer #10 · answered by Sean 3 · 1 2

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