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The founding fathers were all very liberal. Would a conservative start a revolution? and most of them were atheists. Would a christian start a country that isn't based on religion? I'm sick of hearing that the US was founded on christianity, or that it's because of our godliness that we succeeded. our government has laws against making laws that favor any religion.

2006-08-26 13:08:40 · 37 answers · asked by funaholic 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

mad mav, i said they were liberal, not socialist. Wtf are you talking about?

2006-08-26 13:13:48 · update #1

And the government didn't make up the saying "in god we trust", that was put on money in the fifties.

2006-08-26 13:14:43 · update #2

Hey Just Me, why the would you quote a charter that was written in 1606 by the king of england when the us wasn't it's own country yet? I doubt you understand what i'm saying.

2006-08-26 13:22:32 · update #3

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This is an easy answer. Stupidity.


....but the religious seem to encourage and breed stupidity into their followers.

2006-08-26 13:12:10 · answer #1 · answered by zombie_togo 3 · 3 5

You May Have Heard The Term "Nation-State" Before. The Term Implies A Separation Between A Nation, Like The United States, And Its State, Our Governmental System. Our "Nation" Was Arguably Founded By Puritan Christians In 1620 Seeking The Freedom To Practice Their Brand Of Conservative Christianity.

However, Our "State", Based On Our Constitution, Was Created In 1781 When Our Current Constitution Was Ratified. Our "Founding Fathers" Did Their Best To Create A Government That Did Not Favor Any Religion Over Another, However, The Separation Between Church And State Is Not Explicitly In Our Constitution.

On The Other Hand, We Live In A Nation Comprised Of Reformed Christians And Many Of Their Values Have Been Absorbed By Our National Identity, i.e. A Hard Work Ethic.

When Is A Country Founded? When A People Gain A National Identity? Or When A Government Is Created? A Nation And A State Together Make A Country. Which Is More Important To You?

2006-08-26 13:29:22 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

they succeeded because only the strongest survived the trip in those ships. Fought Indians to stay alive and any weak ones died out before they could reproduce. Some came because of religious persecution, actually most. They didn't want the government to tell them how to worship and made a separation of church and state. Quite the opposite really.
Then it was the same with the black man in the USA. Only the strongest was chosen and then only the strongest survived.
So it made a very powerful nation. The freedoms didn't stifle their creativity like in some parts of the world. So they become inventors and artists and free thinkers. Which lead them to have the power in the wars. Better planes and better weapons.
In England for example anyone who dared question the church was burned alive at the stake. Translating a bible a capital offense. while in Americas. It was you believe anything you want. So it became the melting pot of many different religions.
A nation of immigrants brought a multitude of religions.
who lived and worked together. There is no one religion and if there was it would probably be a totalitarian regime.

2006-08-26 13:20:17 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

It's sad really, watching people quote the Declaration of Independance when it doesn't delegate any laws of the country....
They do tend to forget little things like the treaty of Tripoli written by one of the Founding fathers that clearly states...

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Ah well, anything they can LIE about to try to force their beliefs down others throats.......

2006-08-26 13:51:31 · answer #4 · answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6 · 0 1

Here's a quote of the First Charter of Virginia:

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The First Charter of Virginia (granted by King James I, on April 10, 1606)
• We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God…
Instructions for the Virginia Colony (1606)
Lastly and chiefly the way to prosper and achieve good success is to make yourselves all of one mind for the good of your country and your own, and to serve and fear God the Giver of all Goodness, for every plantation which our Heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted out.

There so much more, look it up.....

2006-08-26 13:17:12 · answer #5 · answered by just me 4 · 1 1

John Adams and John Hancock: "We recognize no Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus" (April 18, 1775)

John Adams: "The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity...I will avow that That I believed and that I now believe that those general principals of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God." (From a letter written to his wife the day the Declaration was approved by Congress)

Sam Adams: "Our forefathers opened the Bible to all."

John Qunicy Adams

Charles Carroll

The list goes on and on.

What does being a Christian have to do with being a conservative?

2006-08-26 13:30:38 · answer #6 · answered by hisnamesaves 3 · 1 1

because the founding myth would not sound good if they said the USA was founded on convicts and indentured labourers. there were 4 times as many convicts deported to te USA as puritans. Australia was founded because the convicts could not be sent to the USA any more. Most of the colonies were founded as money making ventures. the Puritans were the equivalent of the Christan Taliban. the ruled England for a while but the banning of music and theatre was so server they English people went back to the monarchy and getting drunk, so the Puritans went to the USA to be morally indignant, however because there was no one else to be upset at they got upset at each other an began to hang eac othe runtill the British crown said enough and gave them an outside governor

2006-08-26 13:17:38 · answer #7 · answered by brinlarrr 5 · 2 1

Whether or not the founding fathers were christians, the rest of the country was, and the states never would have agreed to a nation that wasnt founded on christian principles such as marriage being between men and women for example... Converting savages to Christianity was another justification for slavery by the way....

2006-08-26 13:38:15 · answer #8 · answered by candy 3 · 0 1

We say the United States started as a Christian nation because that was the religion of the people. The founding father were also of religious persuasion obviously given the many things that were written and forged with Gods name on it giving him his due honor.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

-And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our fortunes and our sacred Honor.

If you hate Jesus and his followers and have a problem with all the influence Christianity has here in the US, then I suggest you move to another country.

2006-08-26 13:26:01 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

It's not an assumption, it's a fact. The founding fathers were all Protestants. No Catholics, no Jews, no muslims, no atheists (at least none that would admit it publicly).

Yes, they did. They founded a country based on freedom from religious persecution that was found in Europe at the time.

Simply because you don't like something, doesn't change the facts.

I think there were a mixture of what we would consider conservative (like Washington, and Hancock) and what we would consider liberal (Adams and Jefferson).

Perhaps you should study your history.

2006-08-26 13:25:16 · answer #10 · answered by Wicked Mickey 4 · 1 1

Ben Fraklin wasn't an athiest, but I have it on relatively good authority that he was "essentially" one. One of the popular foundations of belief of the time was that of "God as the clockmaker" (which may have something to do with the existence of the teliological arguement to prove god exists). In short, the idea was that, while god exists, his existence is kind of irrelevant at this point because he created the universe and now is just letting it wind down, and only very occasionally does he "tinker" with it.

I told my mom that I held that belief and she told me that that wasn't christianity, so according to her, the founding fathers (or at least Ben Franklin) wasn't Christian.

Anyway, the founding fathers aren't where the Christian influence in this country came from, it was from the puritans who came before them. So the society of the colonies was at least partially dependent upon Christianity, but not in a way that really sugguests much anything important.

2006-08-26 13:17:24 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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