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2006-08-26 11:51:23 · 23 answers · asked by Wayne S 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

What is the Name(singular) not plural of the Father Son Holy Ghost?

2006-08-26 11:59:40 · update #1

1 John 5:7 says these are ONE not three

2006-08-26 12:03:52 · update #2

you can't divide three into one and get three impossible

2006-08-26 12:07:19 · update #3

three doesn't equal one neither does one equal three

2006-08-26 12:08:23 · update #4

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This is a tiny bit of "The TRINITY-is God three in one?" that shows the trinity as false, along with where it actually came from. Here is the link also.

The trinity is perhaps the most popular, non-biblical fable of all time. You are left to ask yourself whether you will endure the sound doctrine refuting it in this volume.

Matthew 27:46: “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” Why would Christ say this if He was a third of the trinity? How could Christ possibly forsake Himself?

Luke 10:22: “All things are delivered to Me of My Father: and no man knows who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.” When Christ came, He revealed the Father. The nation of Israel never knew the Father. Also, Israel did not know of the Holy Spirit. But why did not Christ also reveal and declare the Holy Spirit, if it is part of the Godhead?

John 17:3: “And this is life eternal, that they might know You the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.” If the “only true God” is the trinity, which would include Jesus Christ, why then would Christ have to be mentioned and why was the Holy Spirit not mentioned?

John 17:11: “And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your own name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one, as We are.” Again, there is no mention of the Holy Spirit! Further, examine verses 20 to 22 of the same chapter. It explains that God and Christ are one just as God’s people are one through the Holy Spirit. It is important to recognize that it is the Holy Spirit that comes into play as the power that allows God’s people to be one unified group— the Church of God. But consider the following: All of the individual human beings in the Church of God around the world are not one single being. Remember, the Father and Christ are one as the brethren are one and vice-versa. God’s people are all separate beings! Thus, God and Christ are separate Beings.

Why, in light of this verse, can people not connect I Corinthians 1:10, which we have already examined, and recognize, for instance, that Paul was not telling the brethren in Corinth to be one single person, simply because he wanted them to be of “one mind,” in the “same judgment” and with “no divisions” among them.

How simple and clear is God’s Word for those willing to read it honestly!

John 20:17: “Jesus said unto her, Touch Me not; for I am not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My God, and your God.” This passage reveals that our relationship to God the Father is the same as the relationship that Jesus Christ had. This could not be the case if Christ was a third of the godhead.

John 1:18: “No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” If Christ has seen the Father, what about the Holy Spirit? As part of the godhead, why would the Holy Spirit not also see the Father, and also participate in revealing Him?

I Corinthians 8:6: “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by Him.” Carefully note what is said. There is one God the Father and one Jesus Christ—but there is no mention of the Holy Spirit. Again, why?

I Corinthians 11:3: “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” How could God the Father be the Head of Christ if they are a trinity in one being? And then the same old question arises once again: Where is the Holy Spirit in this equation?

In Genesis 3:22, we find these two members of the God Family conversing again: “…Behold, the man is become as one of Us, to know good and evil…” Also notice Genesis 11:6-7: “And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let Us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” Again, we could ask: Is God schizophrenic?—Is He talking to Himself?

We find the Logos (the Word – John 1:1) and the Father— two separate God Beings— conversing throughout the Scriptures. However, other than these recorded conversations, the existence of the other God Being (the Father) was not revealed to Israel, or to mankind in general, until Christ revealed Him during His ministry. Even in this case, the essential revelation only applied to those called of God (see Luke 10:22 “…and he to whom the Son will reveal Him”).

Also note Psalm 110:1: “The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit You at My right hand, until I make Your enemies Your footstool.” Here, David refers to a greater Being (the Father—“The Lord”) speaking to David’s Lord (the God of the Old Testament—“my Lord”). In almost every case in the Old Testament, “Lord” referred to Christ, who was the God of the Old Testament (I Cor. 10:1-4). But in this case, it referred to someone of greater supremacy.

Further notice Daniel 7:13: “I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him.” We find here that the “Son of Man” (Christ) approached the “Ancient of Days” (the Father). Christ was not approaching Himself. What is described here is Jesus Christ being “coronated” and given dominion and power over the nations of earth.

2006-08-26 12:12:46 · answer #1 · answered by Redrum 2 · 0 0

The Bible shows very clearly that there is only one God, and yet that there are three personal distinctions in His complex nature, traditionally referred to as "three Persons in the Godhead"—God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Each is distinct from the others but never acts independently. They are one in nature and purpose. This mystery is called the doctrine of the Trinity, though that term is not used in the Bible. The teaching, however, is present in seed form in the Old Testament and is revealed explicitly in the New Testament. Note passages such as Matthew 28:19; John 10:30, 14:26; 2 Corinthians 13:14.

Our finite minds cannot understand or explain this mystery of God, which is nevertheless a fact. We must accept the truths found in the Word of God by faith even though we ourselves cannot comprehend them fully; read Hebrews 11:1,3,6 and 1 Corinthians 2:5-10;14; 13:12. It is really not surprising that the infinite God should be complex in His nature beyond the ability of finite humans to comprehend! This doctrine is absolutely essential to New Testament Christianity. Theologians have pointed out that if it were not true, the Bible would be unreliable, Christ would not be divine, and His death on the cross would not atone for our sins, being merely the death of a martyr.

2006-08-26 13:31:22 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes it does.
The word TRINITY is not in the Bible, but the indicators certainly are.
Look up Psalm 45, and Psalm 110. Both indicate THE GOD speaking to
"HIS OTHER".....also......The Trinity is indicated in 1 John 5:7 if you are using
a King James Bible (others have removed or altered same).

In the Old Testament see Isaiah 44:6 --- and His redeemer I am ---.
and Isaiah 45:11 --- And His maker --.

My favourite indicator is 1 Corinthians 15:28 ! At some point The Trinity will once
again unite because THEN there will be no need for The Trinity !

Water appears as a liquid, steam, and ice. All three are one.
A Clover leaf has three segments, it is but ONE clover.

In both situations above, three are one. Why can't THE GOD do the same?

2006-08-26 11:58:58 · answer #3 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 0 0

The closest verse regarding "Trinity" in the Bible, has now been thrown out of the Bible
1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one."

In the Revised Standard Version of the Bible (R.S.V.) revised by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different co-operating denominations, this verse which is the keystone of the Christian faith of trinity has been removed as an interpolation . Its no longer there in the RS Version of the bible, because the RS Version of the bible takes back more closer to the source, approx. 200 years after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus Christ pbuh. The more closer to the source, the more authentic it is.

It has NOT been expunged from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible by the Muslims or by non-Christian scholars, but by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different cooperating denominations as a fabricated insertion of the church, because this verse does not exist in the original manuscript.

GOOD NEWS BIBLE
1st Epistle of John, chapter 5
verse no 7 - There are three witnesses:
verse no. 8- the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and all three give the same testimony

REVISED STANDARD VERSION
1st Epistle of John, chapter 5
[7] And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
[8] There are three witnesses, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree.


This verse (1 John 5:7 of KJV) is now universally recognized as being a later "insertion" of the Church. All recent versions of the Bible, such as the Revised Standard Version the New Revised Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible, the New English Bible, the Phillips Modern English Bible ...etc. have all unceremoniously expunged this verse from their pages. Why?
Don't you think it is possible that other passages in the Bible may likewise be later additions?
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Matthew 28:19

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

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This verse does not claim that the three are one, or even that the three are equal.

If President of America told General to "Go ye therefore, and speak to the Iraqis, censure them in the name of the United States, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union," does this require that these three countries are one physical country? They may be one in purpose and in their goals but this does in no way require that they are the same physical entity.
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[Mark 12:29] : "Hear, O Israel; The Lord OUR God is one Lord."

2006-08-26 12:02:15 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes. 1John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one"

In response to it being take out of the RSV. It is sad to see that happen, but just because it is closest to the source does not make it accurate if the souce intended to discredit the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There was an Alexandrian manuscript that existed that took out several scriptures about Jesus being God. Those that created it wanted to take away the truth of Jesus being God.

They can be 32 of the greatest scholars but that means nothing. There is something called the Jesus Seminar that sought to get the truth of the Gospels but they are way in left field. Just because they are scholars doesn't make them right

The verse doesn't go against scripture. It only adds to the trinity.

2006-08-26 11:56:10 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Deuteronomy 6:4 "The Lord our God is one Lord."
vs.

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image."

Genesis 3:22 "And the Lord God said, Behold, the man has become as one of us, to know good and evil."

I John 5:7 "And there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

It does no good to claim that "Let us" is the magisterial "we." Such usage implies inclusivity of all authorities under a king's leadership. Invoking the Trinity solves nothing because such an idea is more contradictory than the problem it attempts to solve.

2006-08-26 12:03:43 · answer #6 · answered by I I 3 · 0 0

Yes. The Gospel according to St. Matthew, chapter 28 verse 19:

"Go therefore, & make disciples of all the nations, Baptizing them in the Name Of The Father, & Of the Son, & Of the Holy Spirit."

2006-08-26 11:58:50 · answer #7 · answered by clusium1971 7 · 1 0

The Holy Trinity?

2006-08-26 12:13:09 · answer #8 · answered by Oenophile... (Lynn) 5 · 0 0

Matthew 28:19 (New American Standard Bible)
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

2006-08-26 11:57:40 · answer #9 · answered by J Z 4 · 1 0

The BIble describes (right word or not, I don't know) a triune God; Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Three in one.

2006-08-26 11:58:48 · answer #10 · answered by hisnamesaves 3 · 1 0

No. This was a term that was made up at the Council of Nicaea in 1325. Constantine, the secular leader, refused to let the attendees leave until they came up with a creed to which all Christians had to subscribe. Those who didn't were tortured and killed.

2006-08-26 12:31:53 · answer #11 · answered by Buffy 5 · 0 0

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