Who knows the real Jesus better, christians, or indigenous/shamanic cultures who examine the story of Jesus?

Question

I don't know where this question came from. I saw a national geographic and next to it was a religious text and pictured all the people who will never know Jesus and never did. Then I was thinking that theyre way of life was self-sustaining, and they lived in moments of ectstatic experiences and complete freewill.
Then I was also thinking that sending missionaries and civilizing them actually is doing more harm than good......Just a thought

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It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud

On the wings of the night
As the day time is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night

"On the Turning Away" ---Pink Floyd

Just a thought?

Vicky, thanks but no thanks, that is crap and you know it deep down. Believe in yourself, not some words in a book.

Answer 1

HI Cory,

I don't think we can generalize either category as being more knowledgeable than the other. Have you studied the story of the Aztecs? It's very sad to realize a whole nation was wiped out in the process of 'civilizing' them.

The indigenous people are typically closer to nature and have an in depth understanding of it's cycles and vibrations. Is being close to nature being close to God? I think so. But does that mean these people know more about Jesus? Probably not. But again, I don't think we can generalize.

Answer 2

Christians

Answer 3

Turnbuckle Sam

Answer 4

Truly, those that have an intimate relationship with Christ spiritually will be the only ones that know him. Period.
God Bless--In Christ, through the Immaculata

Answer 5

Lets see: the word "bible" translates as "The breath of God in book form"

Answer 6

Christians 'cause they actually know him personally

Answer 7

Who is jesus? What is his role? Why should we believe him? how important is he? Etc.

All the answers are explained below!

What if you were the richest person who fears no poverty,
What if you were the most healthy person who fears no diseases,
What if you were the most happiest person who fears no depration,
What if you were the most secured person who fears no terrorist?

If you had all the Goods of the world BUT given by somebody! Will you obey him or kick him away because your pride overtook it.

Lucifer had everything , he was an eternal angel until he decided to kick the giver away because of his pride.

14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

EZEKIAL 28:2
Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart [is] lifted up, and thou hast said, I [am] a God, I sit [in] the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou [art] a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

EZEKIAL 28:13-15
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

EZEKIAL 28:17
Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

LUCIFER WAS AN ANGEL, AN ANNONTED CHERUB, ANOTHER CREATION OF GOD.LUCIFER WANTED TO BE THE BOSS OF THE BOSS. LUCIFER BY THE REASONING OF HIS OWN WISDOM WANTED TO OVERCOME HEAVEN WITH HIS POLITICAL TIE UP WITH HIS FELLOW ANGELS. AND WHEN HE COULD NOT BECOME A GOD OF HEAVEN LUCIFER LITERALLY ATTACKED THE SON OF GOD OF HEAVEN- MICHAEL (MICHAEL IS JESUS, THAN NOT IN HUMAN FORM) AND MICHEAL’S ANGELS WHO WERE AGAINST LUCIFER AND HIS GROUP OF ANGELS.
A WAR BROKE OUT IN HEAVEN AND LUCIFER WAS EXPELLED OUT OF HEAVEN BUT WAS NOT KILLED BY GOD.
GOD HAD CREATED ALL HIS ANGELS LIKE ADAM AND EVE AS ETERNAL BEINGS.BUT LUCIFER AND FELLOW POWERFULL ANGELS REJECTED THE FREE GIFT OF GOD–ETERANL LIFE. INSTEAD THEY REBELLED AGAINST THE CREATOR.THEY THOUGHT THAT ETERNAL LIFE IS NOT A GIFT OF GOD rather it is birthright as many of us think of it, in this world.

But you may ask where is Jesus here?

REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST: 12:7-9
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

How many fought with satan against Christ(micheal)?
REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST: 12:3-4a
2:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth…..

Is Michael really Jesus?

Daniel12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.
12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Accepting Jesus?
John 16:1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
16:3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
16:4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
16:5 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
16:6 But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show [it] unto you.
16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show [it] unto you.
16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

The war from heaven till today & till the world ends is between Christ & Satan.

But the solution is forever confirmed Christ gave his life on the cross & defeated satan forever,

The Israelites & their fathers were taught to know the significance of the sacrifice of the lambs without blemish & spot. Lamb represented somebody younger or a child.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end,

Abraham was tested to let son be sacrificed but yet they forgot the son of God.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name [was] John.
1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe.
1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.
5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
5:36 But I have greater witness than [that] of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
5:41 I receive not honour from men.
5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that [cometh] from God only?

Revelation of Jesus Christ 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.
20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.
21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Amen.
What Jesus is doing?
All the answers are mentioned below.

1.ARCHITECT JESUS!
Jesus is building a Mansion- a bunglow for us.

JOHN 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.

2. ADVOCATE JESUS!

1 JOHN 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

3.HIGH PRIEST JESUS!

Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession.
4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

4.King of Kings- Jesus, Lord of Lords –Jesus:

Revelation of Jesus Christ 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

5.Jesus the creator

3:9 And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly [places] might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
3:11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

And many other roles like this

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end.



Recently a film called the davinci code was released saying that Jesus has descendents living amogst us. If watch the film it shows that descendents of Christ will do miracles as tom hanks teases or talks the actress acting as descendent of Christ about doing miracles like healing and she talks or teases about walking in the water or converting the water to wine.

But read the prophecy staright from Christ about davinci code written 2000 years ago.100% applicable today, now.

Mathew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (ELECT ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD WHO WILL LIVE WITH HIM IN HEAVEN, FOREVER)

Jesus is warning us that he has told us before about it that Satan will appear as Christ & will show great healing & other miracles that even the elected can be deceived. And this prophecy is related his second coming on the clouds of the sky with many angels & he will come as lightening comes from east to west and not secretly.

After watching davinci code people believe that there can be existence of Christ’s descendents.

As far as davinci code is concerned it has no value, let me prove it by a simple fact comparison but you will have to do a little thing.

www.kausal.com/leonardo/taufeg.html go to this link & save the image of baptism of Christ.

The picture shows 2 women, Christ in very little water & john the Baptist.

Now understand these verses.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
3:23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
3:24 For John was not yet cast into prison.
3:25 Then there arose a question between [some] of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.
3:26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all [men] come to him.

#Compare these verses with the image,
#Much water vs little water
#It is a Public events but 2 women are shown
#John the Baptist is pouring water like catholics baptize whereas baptism has to be by compete immersion in a lot of water
#most foolish thing is that john the Baptist is holding a cross wheras the cross was an event that happened after 3 & half years.

Therefore if this image made by Leonardo davinci is an imagination of davinci and not truth of God than the image made in the last supper is also NOTHING BUT IMAGINATION OF DAVINCI BUT A TRICK OF SATAN INDEED.

THE BIBLE OFFERS A COMPLETE DETAIL ABOUT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST- THE PURE CHURCH IS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.

3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.
3:29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
3:30 He must increase, but I [must] decrease.
3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure [unto him].
3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

ISAIAH 62:5 For [as] a young man marrieth a virgin, [so] shall thy sons marry thee: and [as] the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, [so] shall thy God rejoice over thee.

REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST: 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

2 CORINTHIANS 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as] a chaste virgin to Christ.
11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

MATHEW 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage.
22:5 But they made light of [it], and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them].
22:7 But when the king heard [thereof], he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
22:14 For many are called, but few [are] chosen.

Knowledge of evil vs. Knowledge of Good!

Total recall about Evil.

Find it below.

PROFILE OF DEVIL
REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST: 12:7-9
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

BUT WHAT WAS THE REASON OF WAR AND HOW CAN WE UNDERSTAND IT?
AS IT IS WRITTEN THAT HIS ANGELS FOUGHT, THE ONE WHO WAS LEADING THE REBELIOUS GROUP OF ANGELS WAS THIS GREAT DRAGON, THAT OLD SNAKE CALLED THE DEVIL AND SATAN WHOSE JOB IS TO DECEIVE THE WORLD.

Was there war in heaven but below is the answer as to how many angels fought whose leader was Lucifer- the devil.

Meaning of Devil is deceiver, meaning of satan is enemy in Hebrew.

rev.12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:

this verse
his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:

tells us, that there was a war in heaven and 1/3 of the angels were cast down to earth.

the point how many angels were there in heaven.read below


Mathew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mathew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

It says all the angels shall come with Christ .

Read this very important verse

Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The silence here means the heaven will be empty when all the angels will come to take the saints home.

Therefore the bible does not gives us the figure of total angels but it tell us the quantity of the fallen angels.

That could be 1/3 rd of 1 billion or 1 trillion etc.

ISAIHA 14:12-14
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the

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stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

EZEKIAL 28:2
Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart [is] lifted up, and thou hast said, I [am] a God, I sit [in] the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou [art] a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

EZEKIAL 28:13-15
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

EZEKIAL 28:17
Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

LUCIFER WAS AN ANGEL, AN ANNONTED CHERUB, ANOTHER CREATION OF GOD.LUCIFER WANTED TO BE THE BOSS OF THE BOSS. LUCIFER BY THE REASONING OF HIS OWN WISDOM WANTED TO OVERCOME HEAVEN WITH HIS POLITICAL TIE UP WITH HIS FELLOW ANGELS. AND WHEN HE COULD NOT BECOME A GOD OF HEAVEN LUCIFER LITERALLY ATTACKED THE SON OF GOD OF HEAVEN- MICHAEL (MICHAEL IS JESUS, THAN NOT IN HUMAN FORM) AND MICHEAL’S ANGELS WHO WERE AGAINST LUCIFER AND HIS GROUP OF ANGELS.
A WAR BROKE OUT IN HEAVEN AND LUCIFER WAS EXPELLED OUT OF HEAVEN BUT WAS NOT KILLED BY GOD.
GOD HAD CREATED ALL HIS ANGELS LIKE ADAM AND EVE AS ETERNAL BEINGS.BUT LUCIFER AND FELLOW POWERFULL ANGELS REJECTED THE FREE GIFT OF GOD–ETERANL LIFE. INSTEAD THEY REBELLED AGAINST THE CREATOR.THEY THOUGHT THAT ETERNAL LIFE IS NOT A GIFT OF GOD

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RATHER THEY ARE SELF EVOLVED BEINGS AND THEY ARE SAME AS GOD.THE CRETURES THOUGHT THEY ARE CREATORS. VERY SELFISH, JUST LIKE TODAY’S MEN AND WOMEN.

FOLLOWING ARE THREE TOP COUNTERFEITS OF DECEIVER DEVIL.THESE HIS CONCEPTS TO HIDE HIS EXISTENCE IN THE WORLD. JESUS WANTS US TO BELIEVE IN HIM BUT SATAN WANTS US NOT TO BELIEVE IN HIM.THESE COUNTERFIETS OF SATAN IS PLOTTED BY HIM TO MISCONCEPTULISE THAT ETERNAL LIFE EXISTS.

BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT THESE THRRE COUNTERFEITS OF SATAN ARE HIS IDENTIFICATIONS ALSO.

NAMELY THESE THREE COUNTERFEITS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
1.CONCEPT OF REBIRTH.
2.CONCEPT OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD.
3.DEVIL POSSESED.

CONCEPT OF REBIRTH:
THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD HAVE BEEN DECEIVED BY LUCIFER’S DOCTRINE OF REBIRTH. REBIRTH IS NOTHING BUT A SURPRISING EXPREANCE IN THE NORMAL LIFE OF PEOPLE. IT HAPPENS WHEN ALL DETAILS OF LIFE OF ANOTHER PERSON WHO DIED SOME YEARS AGO IS TOLD BY A LIVING PERSON WHO NEVER EXISTED DURING THAT PERIOD.

FOR EXAMPLE, MANYTIMES NEWSPAPERS AND NEWS CHANNELS WOULD INFORM THAT A GIRL, WHO WAS DEAD HER COMPLETE HISTORY, LIKES AND DISLIKES, NAMES AND INCIDENTS OF PARENTS, FAMILY, AND FRIENDS ETCETRA ARE REMEMBERED BY A LITTLE BOY WHO NEVER LIVED DURING HER LIFETIME.

THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT LUCIFER HAS BEEN ABLE TO DECEIVE THE WORLD.IT IS LUCIFER’S THEORY THAT LIFE IS NOT IMPORTANT. HE HAS TAUGHT THE WORLD THAT A MAN OR A WOMAN AFTER DEATH IS TRANSFORMED FROM GENERATION TO ANOTHER GENERATION, FROM ONE BODY TO ANOTHER BODY.

BUT THE UNSEEN TRUTH IN THE BLINDED WORLD IS THAT LUCIFER AND HIS
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FELLOW ANGELS HAVE NOT DIED YET AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE NOT DIED YET AND THEY HAVE LEARNED, RECORDED, AND THEY IMITATE LIVES OF PEOPLE.THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN USING THEIR SUPERNATURAL POWERS TO FOOL THE WORLD, THE SEEN TRUTH IS THEY ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL.WELL IF YOU ASK FOR WISDOM FROM THE CREATOR YOU CAN IDENTIFY DEVIL.

CONCEPT OF COMMUNICATION WITH DEAD RELATIVES

JOB 14:12
So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens [be] no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

ECCLESIASTES 9:5-6
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.

SIMILLAR TO PHYSICAL REBIRTH LUCIFER’S DOCTRINE OF TALKING TO SPIRITS IS A WORK OF HIS FELLOW ANGELS AND HIS TOO.WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNT DURING A PERSON’S LIFE IS ACTED OR IMITATED BY THEM.WHEN INFRONT OF PEOPLE THEY IMITATE THEIR RELATIVES, FRIEND AND LOVED ONES TO DECEIVE THEM AND DEPRIVE THEM OF THE GOD’S GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE AND GOD’S ETERNAL LOVE TOO.

DEVIL POSESION:
THIS IS THE INTERFEARANCE OF THE DEVIL- LUCIFER IN THE PHYSICAL AND VERY LIFE AND MEMORY OF THE LIVING PEOPLE.
THE EXTRAORDINARY POWER THAT COMES INTO THE PHYSICAL BODY OF THE EVIL POSSED PERSON ALWAYS IS SURPRISING FOR SCIENCE BUT PHSYCOLOGICAL STUDIES DO NOT DENY THE EXTRAORDINARY POWER IN THE BODY OF PERSON, WHICH ACTUALLY IS THE LUCIFER’S FELLOW ANGELS’ POWER.




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MATHEW 8:28-34
And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding.
So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.
And they that kept them fled, and went their ways into the city, and told every thing, and what was befallen to the possessed of the devils.
And, behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus: and when they saw him, they besought [him] that he would depart out of their coasts.

MATHEW 12:22-37
Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.
And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
But when the Pharisees heard [it], they said, This [fellow] doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast [them] out? therefore they shall be your judges.
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but




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whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by [his] fruit.
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

MARK 1:21-28
And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.
And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
Saying, Let [us] alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him.
And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine [is] this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him.
And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee.

MARK 1:32-34
And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils.
And all the city was gathered together at the door.
And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.

MARK 5:1-20
And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man

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with an unclean spirit,
Who had [his] dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any [man] tame him.
And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, [thou] Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
For he said unto him, Come out of the man, [thou] unclean spirit.
And he asked him, What [is] thy name? And he answered, saying, My name [is] Legion: for we are many.
And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
And they that fed the swine fled, and told [it] in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
And they that saw [it] told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and [also] concerning the swine.
And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all [men] did marvel.

MARK 9:14-29
And when he came to [his] disciples, he saw a great multitude about them, and the scribes questioning with them.
And straightway all the people, when they beheld him, were greatly amazed, and running to


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[him] saluted him.
And he asked the scribes, What question ye with them?
And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;
And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.
He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.
And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.
And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things [are] possible to him that believeth.
And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, [Thou] dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
And [the spirit] cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.
But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.
And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?
And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.

MARK 9:38-41
And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
For he that is not against us is on our part.
For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.



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I BELIEVE THIS IS SUFFICIENT PROOF BY JESUS HIMSELF OF THE MULTIPLICATION OF FOLLOWERS OF SATAN. BUT THE QUESTION IS ARE IS CONVIENCED TO BE COUNTED IN KINGDOM OF HEAVEN OR ETERNAL DEATH (SLEEPING AWAY FROM A LOVING FATHER AND BROTHER AND MANY FRIENDS)