How would you set up a Guest Worker program ( or would you )?

Question

this is a followup to the questions below.
Stop all immigration( almost all NO)
Stop illegal immigration ( almost all YES)

Answer 1

"Foreign labor certification programs are designed to assure that the admission of foreign workers into the United States on a permanent or temporary basis will not adversely affect the job opportunities, wages, and working conditions of U.S. workers."
www.doleta.gov

We already have comprehensive guest worker programs. Illegal aliens just need to fill the form out and then they would not be illegal aliens. We have plenty of legal guest workers to help with the US economy.

Answer 2

Well, to have a successful guest worker program, there would have to be some hard-and-fast boundaries to it, or it'd have no respect. If you came to the United States as a guest worker, that'd be different than applying for citizenship. If you're just in the country as a guest worker, there'd have to be specific guest-worker ID, and employers would have to participate in the program pro-actively, meaning they'd have to manage their books to make note of guest workers separately and in co-ordination with the government. It'd mean more paperwork, and probably fees, and the 'savings' would inevitably get passed on to the guest worker.

In principle, having guest workers sounds like a great idea.
But, before you get carried away with it, there's still the issue of 12-20 million illegal aliens that need to pack their bags and get out of our country. After that job's done, and it's been laid out in black and white, checked/cross-checked and so forth, then talk about guest workers. First things first, about 12+ million people need to go home, and start over. Legal immigration/work plans, or none at all.

Also, we have plenty of US citizens that can do just about any job you can think of, there are no 'jobs that americans won't do' etc., that's so much empty hyperbole, and again, the main issue right now is to arrange the eventual exodus of people living in our country illegally. No, they probably won't go quietly, but as long as they DO finally go home, that'll satisfy the majority on this one, and since america's a country of majority rule, and the majority's already ruled, time for Congress to 'put it in writing' and get cities and states working together to get em out of here. After that's all done, then we talk 'guest worker', not before...but even better would be if Mexico finally pulled its' socks up, and did a LOT more to get its' own people employed, because Mexico's the primary source of our would-be 'guest workers' etc. Accordingly, the border fence needs to be finished, so Mexico can concentrate on achieving its' financial independence. We've thrown enough money at them for the last 30 years, time to see some results...then they won't have to be 'guest workers', they can fix their own country.

Answer 3

if the illegals can get fake id...they can get fake documentation that they have been here more than a year...so won't work....
.I am not sure if we need a huge guest worker program....I don't buy they do jobs Americans won't do...like cleaning hotel rooms and landscape work.....I moved from Massachusetts to an area with huge illegal Mexican populations 3 years ago....OMG I was overwhelmed with how many there were...people who are soft on this are usually from areas where it is not a big problem..like Massachusetts....I went back to Massachussets.in June/July.for .. 5 weeks for work ,I stayed in hotel ...all the cleaning staff were local white women from New England...so if they don't have a problem filling jobs with legal citizens....why elsewhere???? and Mass is a very expensive state to live in...so I don't get the low wage jobs ..that can't find legal residents to filll

if we must have a guest worker program....set it up like a clearing house in MEXICO....by a private contractor...who are paid bythe company...

any Mexican who wants seasonal/temporary work registers with them...companies also register e.g. XY Farm and say I need 1000 workers to pick lettuce in July-Aug....the company and workers are matched ....ICE then issues time limited Visaa....all wages for workers are paid through company in Mexico...with a portion of wages held back (other countries do this) until the job is finished and they have left the country and are back in Mexico.....this can also be done on a smaller basis for e.g. hotels/restaurants in tourist areas that have higher volumes seasonally.....

Answer 4

I'd go with simplifying the H2b visa for seasonal farm workers. Agriculture thinks it is too complex and expensive to handle and delays actual arrival of workers to too late in the season.

This is an unlimited visa program that ALREADY exists. The idea is that agriculture provides housing for the season, which makes it worth it for the seasonal worker to come, and makes it much less likely they will be people really trying to illegally immigrate here. They are not permitted to bring family. They could be registered as individuals for a 5 year sequence of SEASONAL periods, and then the farmer could pick registered ones without having to fill out all of the paperwork which is apparently not worth it for smaller operations.

However, they should still be seasonal, and housed, and the following seasonal work should require proof of recent entry from their home country, showing that they are sticking to the rules, and should require confirmation from the registry that they are in fact registered and not already logged as 'working somewhere else'.

Beyond that, I think employers just need to pay a living wage again, and get used to it. We fund the education and health care which are the 'benefits' that draw their 'cheap' labor, and it is ruining education and services for our own people. The price of their cheap labor is too high.

Answer 5

As follows:

First, establish a guest worker status that is equivalent to legal resident alien status. This would not have the same path to citizenship, but after 10 years at that status, a guest worker could change to permanent resident alien, and then follow the normal process from there if they wanted to eventually seek citizenship.

Guest worker status would be offered to anyone who has been in the US for at least one year, has a job, and has no other criminal record. They would be required to plead guilty to a misdemeanor violation of immigration laws (which goes on their record), pay a fine, and pay all back taxes. Anyone who is already in the US and doesn't come forward within three months of the program start is no longer eligible. It's a narrow window to make things right.

Guest workers who qualified would then be allowed to work and live in the US legally, provided they continued paying all taxes, and provided they committed no other crimes. Anyone with guest worker status who is convicted of a misdemeanor (other than their initial one) or any felony is immediately and permanently deported.

Anyone here less than one year, or who enters later, is not eligible. Anyone with a criminal record (here or abroad) is not eligible. Anyone who hasn't had a steady paying job for one year is not eligible.

The only amnesty involved would be for the businesses who were formerly paying the person, and would be limited to a waiver of prosecution of the business for failure to withhold taxes, provided they complied thereafter.

Answer 6

I would put the American citizens who are on welfare to work!!!!!!! I would use the prisoners to pick the veggies!!!!!!! There is NOTHING that is being done by these "guest workers" that could not be done equally well by an AMERICAN!!!!!!

Answer 7

theres no way this would ever work,these mexicans all look alike.they steal id s.they probably have several.they cant keep up with them.that would be like trying to name roaches in a new york apartment.

Answer 8

I would use the one we already have ... no need to set up a new one ....

Answer 9

I wouldn't.

Answer 10

You wouldn't!