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This immaterial god would have an immaterial mind, and the only minds that we have any examples of result from physical brains.

The only invisible, immaterial things that I know of are ideas, like mathematic, scientific and social concepts. Although ideas can be powerful in moving people to action, they are human creations and have no separate reality. If humankind were to disappear tomorrow, so would ideas — including the idea of God.
The English language even has a term for this — “reify” — which means “to regard something abstract as real or concrete.” The god idea is about as abstract as possible, with no real evidence for existence. However, people have been regarding some god or gods as real for thousands of years.

2006-08-26 08:19:54 · 16 answers · asked by Mr. Mojo Risin 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Wow, such profundities! :p

An invisible, immaterial deity would be non-existent, it seems to me. Everything we have any experience of has some kind of material being, so how can anyone seriously postulate the existence of something that we have absolutely no experience of?

God is merely the product of imagination and wishful thinking.

2006-08-26 08:40:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Have you considered gravity. Invisible, ever present and most people were unaware of it until Newton realized its powerful presence. Just because people were not aware of it, did gravity not exist? Just because people did not know about how to measure its influences, did it not have any influence?

True, it would be absurd should I make an idol of gravity and worshipped it. True it would be more silly if I should make an image of air and worship it. True some religious ideas are silly. But how can we put all ideas in the same basket and call them absurd just because they pertain to religion and question there is no maker, even when nothing ever happens without someone making it.

I remember giving a full lecture on the steel door frame that we pass all the time in most commercial buildings without stopping to think that thousands of years of deliberate application of knowledge and technology made it possible. It did not and can not come about by itself.

Remember that ideas indeed are abstract, but the whole plant life is also reacting to the pressures of the environment, just as we are. Does the Sunflower Plant get the idea to turn towards the Sun. How can the Sunflower as an entity be connected to the Sun, attached to the Earth but dependent on air and water.

Do the confluence of so many energies working together across the deep distances of space and time do not signify a design. Does the absence of failed experiments does not create a point to ponder? Can you show me ANYTHING that happened by itself or without a cause?

We call the ultimate cause the Lord Most High.

Can you also show a man like Mohammad, who single handedly wiped out the religion of his ancestors from all of Arabia (when most people can not even control their teen agers....) and with minimum bloodshed? Less than 2700 were killed on all sides in battles that spanned over ten years.

He replaced it with a religion that projects the Jewish concepts of Monotheism and installed the Prophets of Israel as the elite for his own nation, when Sharon lies in state without dying but could not control the Palestinians and Bush is unable to control the Iraqis and the Israeli super army were unable to defeat the three thousand odd Hizballah. How can a false Prophet defeat all these undefeatable people's ancestor in a mere twenty three years and installed the Jewish elite on them?

Do you know the name of the king of India during the time of Jesus? Do you know the name of the king of Greece in the time of Moses? If not why not? Why does everyone know the names of these men who all claimed to come from the Mighty One.

If reason is the basis of your beliefs, what is the extent of space or time? If you can not even fathom the expanse of space and time when you can calibrate both space and time in your personal life, how can you expect your reason to engulf an entity who is the Maker of Space and Time.

I would love to hear a reasonable response from you too. =)

2006-08-26 16:08:38 · answer #2 · answered by NQV 4 · 1 0

He would be "I am that I am" and he is sometimes documented in the wonders of the Universe, and the creation of worlds and creatures like those that inhabit this planet.
If you are looking for such a creature as an Invisible and Immaterial GOD, then you have the one that even the American Treasury believes in, and I quote, " In GOD we trust" on the back of many of there bills.
All Ideas, and imaginings have some basis in fact, As fact becomes history; history becomes Legend ; Legend becomes Myth; Myth becomes story; Stories becomes Tales told to remind us of what once was, and so on.
One can only ask oneself if many of the things we now believe today have factual evidence, that was once tangible, until destroyed by man's own hand.
Would it then be so hard to conceive in an Invisible , Immaterial GOD, or God Like creature; as that creature would have appeared to be to man in ancient days. There are too many questions and too many unexplained phenomena on this world alone, for us to ask, how was this done? Why was this done? Who did this? Where did they go? Where are they from, if not from Earth?
Many refuse to look at plain evidence at take it at face value; other ignore what there eyes see as hocks, and fictitious. This God would be like the Gods of men, as men have worshiped them since the dawn of their time on this planet.
Every culture on this world has Gods they have worshiped in thier past, and ones they worship now; all are invisible and immaterial, except they newest god of man: MONEY! Which is neither INVISIBLE nor IMMATERIAL.

2006-08-26 15:42:22 · answer #3 · answered by Insight 4 · 0 1

God is Spirit and immaterial. It is also invisible of course because He exists in the heart of the believer no matter what religious group the individual belongs to. Man has devided the believers in different groups by initiating religions.But all of them do believe in a supreme energy called God. The individual who believes without seeing has what is called faith. Each individual has his own perception of this divine energy, and that is what creates differences and even wars which are part of evolution throughout the centuries and eras.

2006-08-26 15:40:05 · answer #4 · answered by montralia 5 · 0 1

Mojo buddy! There you go again, witnessing to the masses as only you can! I think it is awesome how you code an underlying message in your posts. Like the one above with you saying:
"Without God there is nothing. God has always been here even before us and forever after us. Our minds are to feeble to understand an all powerful God. Some atheist (like your old atheist friends Mojo) say God is abstract, but it all boils down to we are nothing without God."

Keep going Mojo, you are doing a FINE job!
http://planttel.net/~meharris1/mikescorner.html

2006-08-27 02:00:08 · answer #5 · answered by green93lx 4 · 0 0

Imaginary.
A generic concept to be customized.
A formless mold you can make anything out of.
A do-it-your-own-way.

2006-08-26 15:27:52 · answer #6 · answered by Prof. Virgo 3 · 1 0

""What could an invisible, immaterial god be like?""


BEYOND our feeble little immature brains to contemplate.

Your diatribe was very interesting to read.
Many will be Wowed by its profundities.

2006-08-26 15:23:45 · answer #7 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 1 1

Sounds like Scotchguard to me.

2006-08-26 15:21:28 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It's a way people use to explain things they can't explain or don't understand.

2006-08-26 15:22:08 · answer #9 · answered by Matthew O 2 · 0 0

a baby doodlebug

2006-08-26 15:23:23 · answer #10 · answered by Dababygirl6886 1 · 0 0

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