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Agnostic here, dont want to convert anyone,

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gospelpeter.html

What does all this mean, that there are all these writings by people who knew Jesus, and some of their stuff made it into the Bible, but not everything, especially stuff that is of a different doctrine.

So Peter says in some of these things he talked to Jesus and heard things from Jesus. Things that change Christian doctrine.

Is Christianity for you about Jesus, or is it about "bible", or like me are you something else and use books to get life lessons and not to base your soul on a doctrine

2006-08-26 03:15:58 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I don't base my soul on Peter, that's for sure!

Most Chritians follow Peter and Paul to a degree John and to a major degree Constatine.

You have to think for youself.

But can you defeat the ultimate doctrines that defy HUMAN logic, such as

Don't lie
Don't Steal
Don't cheat
Don't murder
Love your neighbor
Love your enemy the most

Do you need proof to make these real!

2006-08-26 03:43:18 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am not sure I am understanding your question, if it is talking about how Peter's letters are different than the other gospels or letters, or if I am totally off base, but if your question IS about the different perspectives or views of the writers, this is the best way I know to answer it.
Picture this-- you, me and about ten other people were standing on a street corner waiting for the light to change in order to cross the street...out of nowhere a huge semi plows over a carload of people coming from the other direction. All twelve of us saw what happened, all twelve of us are asked to write a written statement of what happened....would all 12 of our statements be identical? No, we would all have our own viewpoint, 6 of us might have been watching the semi, 4 of us watching the car and 2 engaged in conversation and only see the impact. The same is true of the writings in the New Testament. We are given accounts by different people of their experiences of and with Jesus. Because they aren't all written by the same person, they vary in their writing. As for Peter, we are told in the New Testament, that he was a little different from the other disciples. He was quick to react, quick to anger....altogether more volatile than the others. His writing doesn't change the doctrine of Jesus and salvation. My belief is based on the saving grace of God through Jesus Christ, the bible is my guide for life. Not sure if this is the answer you are looking for, but it's the best I can do. Peace to you & yours. :-)

2006-08-26 10:34:28 · answer #2 · answered by Nelita C 3 · 0 0

Since the first evidence we have of the Gospel of Peter is second century, and it shows a markedly different command of Greek, different theological and Christological concerns, and it's written in apocalyptic style, as opposed to the encyclical letters, only a handful of authorities then and now consider that more than a few bits if any are authentically Petrine. Too bad for Right to Lifers. It's the one Christian document of the early Christian era that purports to be apostolic and unequivocally condemns abortion, damning women who have one to horrible punishments in hell. I'm sure James Dobson wishes fervently that the book was canonized, but God just can't seem to get on the same page with His self-procalimed representatives.

2006-08-26 10:30:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I was watching something on the history channel about one of the disciples being secretly told by Jesus that we all get out of hell, and the he was to tell no one, because there would be no reason to be good. That was the explanation to why an all merciful god burns people. The church did not like it as it is a threat to power. Also along those lines I was watching the movie "stigmata" last night. It talked about some interesting stuff if you never saw it. If the bible was fact, its message was distorted for churches political agendas.

2006-08-26 10:26:47 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Of course Christianity is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. And he is the subject of just about all of the 66 books of the Bible.

2006-08-26 10:20:59 · answer #5 · answered by David S 5 · 1 0

Had to do a bit of research on this, found this little piece about it:

Gospel of Peter (Syria, 100-130 CE)

Down to 1886 scholars were aware of a Gospel of Peter, but not so much as a single quotation from it was known. Origen casually refers to it in his Commentary on Matthew (10.17) when discussing the brethren of Jesus, and Eusebius records the negative opinion expressed by Bishop Serapion of Antioch after he had read a copy of this apocryphal gospel:

... most of it is indeed in accordance with the true teaching of the Savior, but some things are additions to that teaching, which items also we place below for your benefit.

Unfortunately, Eusebius, to whom we are indebted for a copy of this part of Serapion's letter, did not quote the specific points which the bishop found objectionable; he apparently brought it into connection with 'Docetists'. In another place, Eusebius classifies the Gospel of Peter as one of the heretical writings.

In the winter of 1886-7 a large fragment of the Greek text of the Gospel of Peter was discovered in a tomb of a monk at Akhmîm in Upper Egypt. It is a manuscript from the 8th century - an online text is available. A smaller 2nd-3rd century fragment was discovered later at Oxyrhynchus, Egypt.

The text, which is translated in [Schneemelcher] v. 1 pp. 223-226, tells of the passion, death, and burial of Jesus, and embellishes the account of his resurrection with details concerning the miracles that followed. The responsibility for Christ's death is laid exclusively on the Jews, and Pilate is exonerated. Here and there we find traces of the Docetic heresy, and perhaps this is the reason why Jesus' cry of dereliction on the cross is given in the form 'My Power, my Power, why have you forsaken me?'.

Written probably in Syria between 100-130 CE the Gospel of Peter shows acquaintance with all 4 canonical Gospels but seems, in general, to have taken only limited notice of them. According to the investigation made by [Denker] pp. 58-77, it appears that almost every sentence of the passion narrative was composed on the basis of Scriptural references in the Old Testament, particularly in Isaiah and the Psalms. He argues that the work is a product of Jewish Christianity written sometime between the two Jewish uprisings. For differing opinions see [Schneemelcher] v. 1 pp. 217-222.

It is doubtful that it was written by Peter, since the dating tends towards the latter part of the 1st century and into the 2nd Century. It is believed that the Gospel of Mark was actually dictated to Mark by Peter, so the Gospel of Mark would more closely relate Peter's experiences.

2006-08-26 10:38:41 · answer #6 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 1 0

Well, I'm sure you are familiar with the Council at Niceaa (sp?) that determined which books would be gospel and which would not.

I forget which book that wasn't included in the Bible that had the author dreaming he was with Jesus and watching the tortured souls in hell. He asked Jesus how God could allow such a thing, and Jesus told him that God didn't. It was a ruse; hell did not exist, because God would never allow such torment to happen.

I forget the name of the book, but that changed my view on a lot of things..

2006-08-26 10:20:30 · answer #7 · answered by jgain 3 · 0 1

Regarding Doctrine:

Doctrine, from Latin doctrina (compare doctor), means “a code of beliefs”, “a body of teachings” or “instructions”, taught principles or positions, as the body of teachings in a branch of knowledge or belief system.

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:8-9 KJV

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15

Given those quotes, yes I do follow the Christian doctrine closely in keeping with my salvation.

2006-08-26 11:34:30 · answer #8 · answered by biblenewz 1 · 0 0

Let's say the bible was all made up, DOES it really matter, especially if it helps someone to God.

GOD IS REAL, JESUS IS REAL, you can take the bible and religion away from all..... The truth is still there, I don't need a bible or religion, my spiritual faith is in God first, and the rest falls in line of the truth.

2006-08-26 10:23:49 · answer #9 · answered by inteleyes 7 · 0 0

I believe that Christianity is not completely about the teachings of Jesus. It is about the worship of Jesus as the son of God.

Jesus' message included that we are ALL sons and daughters of God and the works he accomplished we also can do and even greater things. This raises all people to the same level as Jesus. The church teaches against this as herecy.

I believe the Christian religions were specifically designed to control the masses and create more power for the people who were/are in power. Setting Jesus on a pedastal for people to worship helped to acheive this. That was not Jesus' intention. I believe he had no intention of being worshipped. His actions do not strike me as being from a man who is a power monger.

Read carefully his teachings, and explore scriptures that were not included in the bible. I applaud you on your free thinking. You are on the right track.

2006-08-26 10:28:35 · answer #10 · answered by whitewolfpfv 2 · 1 1

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