Question for non-Christians about Bible prophesy?

Question

Agnostic here, not wanting to change anyones religion.

Is there anything more pathetic in your view then people who think a book that had prophesies that came true and that means its a work of God?

Bible says there was going to be war between east and west, that doesnt prove anyting.

Moby Dick has prophesies: http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

Yet no one ever says its the word of God.

Non-Christians, are these people crazy?

Answer 1

What I think is a little funny now that I think of it is this... the same people that believe in Biblical prophecy and/or the Bible Code are the same people that say fortune telling, psychics, and other supernatural stuff is a bunch of bologna... well on second thought, I guess it's good that they at least they got that last part right...

Answer 2

Not crazy. Blind. Some are incapable of critical thought, the others have voluntarily abandoned their critical faculties.

The Bible is an old story book created as a tool of social control. The fulfilled prophecies are overinterpretation of coincidences, with a lot of creative licence.

As you say, the fact that people still believe what is written within it to be fact is simply pathetic.

Answer 3

"How do you describe the Rebirth of Israel prophesy interior the bible" The Israel it somewhat is in the present day isn't the Israel that became suggested interior the Bible. it particularly is like somebody having a new child and calling him Jesus Christ, will this new child be the 2nd coming? Israel scuffling with off Egypt,Iraq,Syria,Jordan,Lebanon,Yemen,Sa... Arabia. And ouch did they get pwned! Forgot the Billions of greenbacks that are sent from the U. S. to Israel each and every 3 hundred and sixty 5 days. With this quantity of money even monkeys can create their own united states of america and by using the way i'm christian

Answer 4

no, not crazy. they could be completely right and we'll all bow before his omnipotence one day and wish we had listened when we had the key all along. not to mention millions upon millions of people telling us and trying to share their salvation. time will tell. i try to educate myself in all directions, so that when things come down to it, hopefully i'll have made the right decisions. i don't want to be on the wrong side of the fence anymore than anyone else. and it never hurts to hear an encouraging word.

i'm agnostic myself. but everyone needs something to believe in. i do believe that "Christianity" today is used as more of a crutch for most people who claim to be christians. a kind of insurance people think they have if they claim the title.

there are arguments in both directions, though. i do believe i read in an article recently that the bible has had more prophecies fulfilled than any other religious book. somewhere in the area of more than 2,000 of the nearly 2,500 that are mentioned in the bible, saving the rest for the end days. i also know, though, that in the bible there is a common misunderstanding about the end times, because nowhere in the entire revelation does it mention the word rapture. it's just a thought.

also, the bible is supposed to be the word of god, and parts of it very well may be, i can't say. but i do know that at some point, there were lots of differents portions said to be god's word, and versions floating around that were interpreted and taught differently than what we know today as the holy bible. depending on the time and location, there were several many different groups interpereting several many different peices that they believed to be the word of god. it finally came down to a decision, that if my memory serves me correctly, most likely came from the emperor constantine, as to what would now be considered the word of god that we know today as the bible. a MAN made the decision as to what to include, and what to leave out. a man at that time i'm sure had his own agenda and his own beliefs, who's to say that this didn't play into the final draft? this, to me, makes the new testament, the basis of faith in christianity, capable of discrepencies simply because a man existing in this dimension had the final say in what millions of people around the world live their lives by today.

people will believe what they want to believe. most will believe what they're parents taught them or perhaps the surrounding social environment suggests they believe. i myself believe that one should research and educate themselves before they base their faith in a particular direction.

moby dick is intended to be a story, not something to base your entire life and your entire belief system upon, that's the difference.

Answer 5

hello:}
i wouldnt call anyone with faith [whatever varity it is ]crazy .
but i agree that prophecies are fortune telling and NO one can predict the future for it is subject to change .
sure i do believe that we can see into the future short term ,we all can have premonitions and sense future happening but not 2000,years ahead of time .
i feel mostly that the devoted christians and those of other faiths ,study and get told so often from birth [in a sense brainwashing ]that they end up simply so SURE of what they have learned and been taught that they actually can not open their minds to anything that goes against their teachings ,if these teachings taught them tolerance and strength and being kind and non judgemental it would be GREAT ,but often thrown in with these wonderful attributes is the very thing that disturbs us that are non traditional ,,,,they want to SAVE us like they think they are RIGHT because some book has told them so ......
so not crazy simply taught early on that they have the key to heaven and hell ----------------but yet others whose beliefs are similar yet different are going straight to hell ?????
guess they think they have a monopoly on God or the higher spirit ,,,,,,
so no not crazy but i think slightly misguided ..................
no human KNOWS exactly what is beyond ,they can proclaim all they want but you can not have any sort of discussion with them ,all they do is quote bible literature and yet they can not explain anything beyond scripture ,what it might mean or what different interpetations it might have, they are close minded to anything they feel is not how they have been taught .
anyway .
best to you
peggy:}

Answer 6

Things More Pathetic:
-selling car to buy gas money
-parking on the side of a highway, sticking a hair dryer out the window, and seeing if people slow down
-voting repulican
-learning to speak kligon
-new age medicine
-Benedict Arnold
-Jerry Falwell showing proof of a 'homosexual agenda' by claiming that the teletubbies are gay
-Jerry Falwell in general


My point: nothing, just trying to prove you wrong
The truth: literalist phrophecy-breakers are pathetic fooish individuals who don't understand the true purpose of religion

Answer 7

The "prophecies" are so specific that from the day of Paul the Apostle until this day, believers have interpreted them as referring to themselves in their own time, and con artists are still making fortunes off of these rubes by stoking their certainty that all of creation and God himself has been waiting for their birth so He has someone cool enough for Jesus to come and get. And have you noticed how much this notion is tied to their egos and self-importance? These believers, filled with the milk and honey love of Jesus, just can't wait to sit in the clouds and gloat in eternal smugness that they were right and watch everyone that told them they were dumber than cat litter die in the ugliest ways imaginable. For so many of them this is about getting back at those evil-doers that passed 3rd grade science when they couldn't.

I suppose Tim LaHaye has a swimming pool full of cash he splashes around in every day as he laughs himself silly that there's anyone simple enough to think the nonsense he writes will really happen and actually pay money for it. But I give the guy credit for zeroing in on a target market that is willing to spend their lives, their money and their energy on something that in another context would get them committed for mental illness. I think guys like him and John Hagee belong in jail, but unlike them I'm an atheist, so I have morals and ethics that prevent me leading the blind into a ditch.

Answer 8

I enjoy reading these reactions that articles like this get from the religious fanatics. You can really get them stirred up.

When all their ranting and raving is over, they all show their true beliefs. Look at their responses, if they do anything but misquote their bible, quran or whatever, they speak of killing, stealing, abusing or mistreating others.

Somewhere I read that "Do unto others as you would have them to do unto you". Sound familiar?

Or how about this one "Thou shall not kill"....

Maybe before any bible thumpin born again christian or moslim or jew or whatever, opens their mouth to speak, they should look deep inside themselves and assure their words will express GOD's will and not their own sick little desires.

Answer 9

east and west what? France?

prophecies always seem to be vague, like that Nostradamus crap, "when 2 giants fall....." then people related that to 9/11. It's also on part of the people believing the prophecies, who will look for any little clue and relate it to the prophecy they have heard.

Answer 10

It won't seem so pathetic when the non belivers are left behind and the believers who belived in what you call Pathetic belief in a book went to heaven for that belief. Who will look pathetic then?