"And they called Barnabas Zeus and Paul Hermes.
Then the priest of Zeus , which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done service with the people."
"And the dusciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
Are the above Bible quotations or straight from Greek fables and mythology?
(1) "And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice but seeing no man."
(2) "And I fell to the ground......and they that were with me saw indeed the light , but they heard not the voice."
(3) "And when we were all fallen to the earth."
Above are Paul's three accounts of the same dream or drunkenness with the Bible providing witnesses with Paul who heard no evil, saw no evil, and could not give any evidence at all.
Is this Bible or Greek fables and mythology.
"And his face did shine as the Sun, and his garment was white as the Light...exceeding white as Snow."
Is that Zeus or the Son of Zeus in the Bible?
2006-08-25
18:41:16
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Luke's was the last Gospel written and it was written more than a century after the crucifixion of two thieves named Jesus.
Luke also wrote the Acts of the Apostles and he wrote for his Emperor Theophilus.
The other Emperor Constantine, put the Bible together at the First Council of Nicea, and he, like Paul, had a vision of a fiery cross in the sky with the words "By this sign thou shalt conquer, and thus began the real Christianity, the cult of the Cross.
Constantine's revelation from Zeus was like Paul's case with JeZeus, nobody saw and nobody heard and nobody knows if he dreamt about it like Joseph with the angel who had the power to change the name of the Messiah and to stop Joey from putting away his adulterous wife, but it did have everything to do with Zeus the SunGod, just like Paul the drunken soldier.
Then came King James.
Why do we allow these royal jerks to preach religion to us and never stop to think about the evil intentions of royalty?
Come on rabble!
2006-08-26
00:31:23 ·
update #1
Sure! the Greeks were holding on to their mythology, and Paul and Barnabus were also Greek leaders who the Greek priest recognised as such and welcomed them with their newest addition to their Greek mythology, which was a Son of Zeus risen from the dead and a living Zeus, which was meant to be an enhancement to their pagan worship of the Sun and the Sun God Zeus, which is why Paul had this vision of JeZeus calling him from the Sun at midday, with witnesses that neither saw not heard and who all fell to the ground.
Christianity is totally dependent on witnesses that are blind and deaf and dumb and always with visions and mysteries to be sure that they dont ever believe but accept blindly, but not whole-heartedly because their heart is never in it, but you can bet their heads are in it right up to the throat and tongue and ears and shallow brain.
2006-08-28
13:07:24 ·
update #2
Grammy is advised to check the scenes at the tomb where the pagan soldiers put on their skit on the resurrection of a son of Zeus.
See Matthew's pagan description of the trouble the Jews found for themselves at their call for the crucifixion of the two thieves Jesus on the Passover and the Sabbath, its the end of the pagan World for the Jews with the dead rising from the graves. and that is more Zeus than Greek myths.
2006-08-29
14:47:28 ·
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They were all Greek gods that were referred to by people in the Bible. The Bible speaks of people of other religions as well as the Jewish and the Christian arrangements.
Your quotes, let's see - the first set:
The first one is from the Bible at Acts 14:12
The second one also is a quote from the Bible at Acts 14:13
The third - that they were first called Christians in Antioch - also the Bible - Acts 11:6
The closest that I could come to with your final quote (in the bible anyway) is Matthew 17:2 (KJV) about the transfiguration of Christ, but it doesnt have the last part about exceeding white as snow. So, I guess I will have to have you tell me, so that I can look it up, because if you are quoting from the Bible there, it must be a different TRANSLATION than the ones I am using, in which case, I have others - perhaps even the one you are using.
Of course, Moses' face also shown after he came down from the mountain with the two stone tablets, but that is the only thing that matches.
2006-08-25 19:15:37
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answered by grammy_of_twins_plus two 3
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Paul and Barnabas rebuked the men who called them Zeus and Hermes. The Greeks were still holding onto their mythology, the apostle Paul corrected them. Read it in context.
The passages concerning Pauls conversion are a retelling of that event in his life. It was not a dream but an actual event that took place as evidenced by the change it wrought in his life.
2006-08-26 01:46:36
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answered by AirborneSaint 5
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Zeus and Hermes are Greek Gods. Jesus is from the Bible. In the Bible, there is only one god, and he is the father of Jesus, but somehow there is this crazy holy trinity (father, son, and holy ghost) thing going on, and they have equal powers. Then there's this guy named Satan that has the exact same amount of power as the one God, except that Satan uses his power for evil. Stick to Mythology, it makes more sense.
2006-08-29 16:18:54
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answered by jwest0125 4
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Those are characters in Greek Mythology.
2006-08-26 03:24:00
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answered by kingofnarniaforever 4
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I want to give an extended quote here from The Encyclopedia of Religion [Macmillian: 1987; article is by Jonathan Z. Smith, Professor at University of Chicago, and general editor of the HarperCollins Dictionary of Religion]. The entry under "Dying and Rising Gods" starts this way:
"The category of dying and rising gods, once a major topic of scholarly investigation, must now be understood to have been largely a misnomer based on imaginative reconstructions and exceedingly late or highly ambiguous texts.
"Definition. As applied in the scholarly literature, 'dying and rising gods' is a generic appellation for a group of male deities found in agrarian Mediterranean societies who serve as the focus of myths and rituals that allegedly narrate and annually represent their death and resurrection.
" Beyond this sufficient criterion, dying and rising deities were often held by scholars to have a number of cultic associations, sometimes thought to form a "pattern." They were young male figures of fertility; the drama of their lives was often associated with mother or virgin goddesses; in some areas, they were related to the institution of sacred kingship, often expressed through rituals of sacred marriage; there were dramatic reenactments of their life, death, and putative resurrection, often accompanied by a ritual identification of either the society or given individuals with their fate.
"The category of dying and rising gods, as well as the pattern of its mythic and ritual associations, received its earliest full formulation in the influential work of James G. Frazer The Golden Bough, especially in its two central volumes, The Dying God and Adonis, Attis, Osiris. Frazer offered two interpretations, one euhemerist, the other naturist. In the former, which focused on the figure of the dying god, it was held that a (sacred) king would be slain when his fertility waned. This practice, it was suggested, would be later mythologized, giving rise to a dying god. The naturist explanation, which covered the full cycle of dying and rising, held the deities to be personifications of the seasonal cycle of vegetation. The two interpretations were linked by the notion that death followed upon a loss of fertility, with a period of sterility being followed by one of rejuvenation, either in the transfer of the kingship to a successor or by the rebirth or resurrection of the deity.
"There are empirical problems with the euhemerist theory. The evidence for sacral regicide is limited and ambiguous; where it appears to occur, there are no instances of a dying god figure. The naturist explanation is flawed at the level of theory. Modern scholarship has largely rejected, for good reasons, an interpretation of deities as projections of natural phenomena.
"Nevertheless, the figure of the dying and rising deity has continued to be employed, largely as a preoccupation of biblical scholarship, among those working on ancient Near Eastern sacred kingship in relation to the Hebrew Bible and among those concerned with the Hellenistic mystery cults in relation to the New Testament.
"Broader Categories. Despite the shock this fact may deal to modern Western religious sensibilities, it is a commonplace within the history of religions that immortality is not a prime characteristic of divinity: gods die. Nor is the concomitant of omnipresence a widespread requisite: gods disappear. The putative category of dying and rising deities thus takes its place within the larger category of dying gods and the even larger category of disappearing deities. Some of these divine figures simply disappear; some disappear only to return again in the near or distant future; some disappear and reappear with monotonous frequency. All the deities that have been identified as belonging to the class of dying and rising deities can be subsumed under the two larger classes of disappearing deities or dying deities. In the first case, the deities return but have not died; in the second case, the gods die but do not return. There is no unambiguous instance in the history of religions of a dying and rising deity."
2006-08-26 01:43:03
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answered by Adyghe Ha'Yapheh-Phiyah 6
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thay are greek gods
2006-08-26 09:08:09
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answered by andrew w 7
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