If you see how BIG the universe and all that exist is, isnt it more UNReasonable to think someone made it all?

Question

I cant make space,stars etc. Im sure that it could easily be considered impossible for humans to make a star from scratch, or invent atoms from nowhere. So clearly it is all the more reasonable to suggest that the Heavens and The Earth were NOT made by some intelligent being.
What do you think?

-The thinker-
Ive read about PHI, it certainly is no proof of 'creation'. it has nothing to do with my question

Answer 1

Well the choice is to believe that it all just happened for no reason and with no cause other than a coin-flip. So really you have not posed an irresistible alternative.
Aside from that, given what we have been able to create with our measly intelligence and power pales in comparison with what someone with infinite intelligence and power could do. The universe is no exception.
Basically you have limited God in your mind. You are in awe of the creation instead of the Creator. We were warned about this in Romans. What do you think?

Answer 2

Whenever people see something beautiful or odd, they don't go say "oh, nobody made this!", they say,"who made this?!". The natural way is to ask "what" or "who" made something. Do you think people 1000 years ago, even 100 years ago can even imagine such a small common thing as a cellular phone today? There's absolutely no denying that humans had evolved, intellectually, if not physically so why is it NOT reasonable to believe some other kind of being evolved on a level that its able to create things we cannot even think about today?

Your supposition is wrongly founded on the idea that humans are the only intelligent beings and that there can never be or there is absolutely no other intelligent beings apart from us.

If people only had the slightest idea of how really big the universe is then the notion that we are the only intelligent beings will surely fade.

Sure there is no absolute proof as of today that there are other beings out there but there is also no proof that they are not out there.

In fact, if we go hard science, all the mathematical and theoritical conjectures point to "there are others". There is just no mathematical model to support "there are no other".

Answer 3

Yes. We know how stars are made. It's a lot of gases coming together because of gravity. No intervention needed. We know how galaxies are made. Same as stars on a larger scale. Again, no intelligent intervention needed. Gravity pretty much works by itself.

We don't know how the universe came to be. We don't even know what might have come before the universe, or even if there was a "before". We also don't know the rules outside of this universe, such as gravity and time. Still, saying "We really don't know" is much better than just making up an answer, such as "god did it."

I often hear religious people, especially Christian, say something to the effect of "The universe is complex, so there must be a god". Complex? That just means we don't know how it came to be. Everything is complex until you know the steps required to do it. That argument boils down to, "Humans are ignorant about something, therefore God exists", which of course is nonsense.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Answer 4

To answer a question of this magnitude, I must ask you to shift your perspective. Imagine you were the size of an ant. Can you then imagine having any knowledge whatsoever of how large the planet you live on is? In a case such as this, the perception can be forced to alternate dimensions. Imagine you exist in only two dimensions and can see the universe as only flat space. Now imagine you're a giant, and you eat planets for food. The universe suddenly doesn't seem so large anymore. I would think that a creature that exists in larger dimensions would see our universe as less complex and grandios. Our universe could in fact be some 11th dimensional child's snowglobe. Ponder a 4 dimensional square having 10 sides and you'll see what I mean.

Answer 5

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The gist of many answers is like this one:

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"Its called the big-bang and physics.

There is no need to invent a god to explain the current state of the universe. "

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Think about how redundant that statement is.
I mean to belittle the comment, and am.

No matter how far foolish man takes his mind back.
No matter how many Eons, Milllllllllllllllions and Millllllllllllions of years, Ages, etcetera...
All he is trying to do is trivialize something he cannot explain.

I don't care if our Great Scientists invent the theory of a Big Bang.
I don't care if our Great Thinkers contemplate String Theories, or M-Branes,
foolish foolish man cannot explain the simplest of truths.

Even if you remove the dust from space...
the dust that in some minds Imploded, and others Exploded..
Came together and expanded or contracted,
whether they were big rocks, or minute pieces of sand...
take them away,
and you still have space.

Space, is still something that had to be created.
It has boundries to it's creator, just because it is easier for us to say "it just goes on and on and on...,
It exists because something/someone/some entity,
took it upon himself, itself to make amusement.

To it/Him, we are but an oddity that exists for a "time" and is but a vapor that vanisheth away.

WE DID create one thing.
The element of Time.

He/it, exists not in time.
He/it is looking at a series of photographs so-to-speak.

This entity can see front back side to side, in under and knows every aspect of your life.

Bill The Dude said he spent hours upon hours when he was younger contemplating this.

I've been there Bill, and many hundreds of thousands of others have too.
We cannot put an answer so we try to feel powerful and create one.

The world was flat.
The world is round.
Stars and planets travel around Earth.
Ooops, now we see that theory was wrong. They all travel around the sun.
Ooops, now we see that the universe itself is all a series of planets stars etc. travelling around different suns,
and the whole thing is swirling in space in a sort of soup that is spinning together.
We don't know crap about anything, and are so out of control of things that we ...for the short span of time we exist... want to figure out our purpose.

We need to have some sort of answer.

LOL, we are what we are.
A playtoy with a Will.

Yes, you can turn left, or right.
You can sit on your butt in front of your computer,
or you can research other peoples work and summize a theory of your own after they get you thinking.

We have a choice, Raisin Bran or Cap'n Crunch for breakfast.

Some feel you have a decision.
Choose Christ, Mohammed, etcetera.
Or die.
Well, choose or don't choose is your Will.....
but you are going to DIE anyway.

What choices you make, may be indelibly etched in the only thing you take with you...
the electrical impulses in your head.

Then, even those may be mixed in with a kajillion other electrical impulses, into a great big Borg in space.
A Borg, which is all collectively saying:
"We are Borg ..."
........and down deep inside the bowels of Borg
is heard a voice.....
(yessssssssssss, I am borg but I remember I had a 'self...called..............."bill")

LOL, We know soooooooooooooooo much.
NOT.
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Answer 6

I think we will need to find the center of the universe and go look for our selves. The description of both the big bang and the creation by the word of a Creator is the same action and movement.The universe is still growing at some point it may reach its limit and either just burn out for lack of fuel or start collapsing in on its self. Either way it would be the same result as the day of Judgment.

Answer 7

It is more unreasonable to believe that it all happen with a "big bang". Genesis 1: 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Answer 8

One day a scientist told God that He was no longer needed.We have learned how to make the perfect human being with out You.We'll say God; lets have a contest.God picks up a handfull of dirt,shapes it and breaths the breath of life into it .A man comes forth.Now says God its your turn.The scientist reaches down picks up some dirt ; wait a minute says God,you will have to get your own dirt.It's sad that we have people asking questions and making comments like this.Sadder is the fact that this shows we Christians aren't speaking out and being the example that we should be. Please forgive me CJunk and all you alike out there.I promise to start doing a better job.I'll be praying for you.Your friend in the Lord

Answer 9

It is unreasonable to believe someone didn't make us as different as each of us are, and that our earth situated perfectly from the sun to warm us and not burn us. That the moon is set to show up at night and light the stars. Can't even imagine the beauty of everything being an accident.

Answer 10

Most people miss the bigger issue: the mystery of something always existing. Forget about god, just think of the fact that something (process, potential, whatever) had to always exist. Most don't think through this deeply enough to see the implications. I used to think about this for long periods of time when I was a kid and would almost get panicky with the implications.