for an unlimited period of time, would one of them accidentally type the Bible? I think there would just be an infinity of jibberish because it takes intelligence to put chaos into complex order. Complex order just doesn't happen by accident. What do you think?
2006-08-25 06:18:39 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
To Alexander Shannon: Even given infinity, as you say, I think that there would be an infinity of chaos! Does infinity make all things possible?
2006-08-25 09:04:54 · update #1
That was the LOGIC presented to me by a DOCTORATE regarding
Evolution.
If one million years doesn't do it-- give it five millions, and on....
Darwinism is a strong Faith.
2006-08-25 06:24:44 · answer #1 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
It'd take three monkeys about a half-hour, actually.
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In fact, complex order DOES happen without intelligent intervention. It happens all the time. It's all around us. There are many many complex things in nature that are just too danged complex to have been put together by intelligence, and it is only human arrogance that leads us to assume not only that intelligence CAN do such amazing things (in spite of the complete lack of evidence), but that ONLY intelligence can do them.
I'll start thinking that intelligent design is possible when you show me a group of scientists who have created an entirely new form of life, one capable of maintaining itself in changing environments, and reproducing itself as well, but not simply using the existing mechanisms (DNA, etc.) to do so. Frankly, I don't think that anyone is EVER going to be able to do anything like that unless it relies on, you guessed it, evolution.
And yes, Just Let Me Say's answer is wonderful.
2006-08-25 13:22:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
you are so right. I have someone arguing this with me now- I said that if you put a bunch of stuff in a box and shake it around (I did not mention you still need a force to do the shaking !) you could do this forever and get nothing useful without a plan and a purpose- he says adding more stuff more boxes and more time increases the probability of getting something useful- you said it though, it takes intelligence to bring order to chaos and without it you get infinite chaos! You can't oversimplify- it's not that complicated- chaos breeds chaos and intelligence, planning and purpose will create order!
God Bless!!
2006-08-25 13:34:10 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
it might take more than trillions but a higher number of monkeys could do it. You can calculate the odds. For the first letter to be right its one in 23 or one in 50 or so for the keys on the keyboard. For the first two to be right, its 50 times 50 or so. It would take many many monkeys to do it.
2006-08-25 13:23:59 · answer #4 · answered by kurticus1024 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I see your point but if you had a trillion trillion monkeys its likey that some of them would type something resembling bits of the bible. The fact of the matter is it could happen by accident, but because its by accident it doesnt mean anything.
2006-08-25 13:21:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Complex order happens all the time. All it takes is an entropic energy gradient.
Does God sit there and patiently place all the atoms in a crystal in perfect order? Of course not! The atoms and molecules move as they do to minimize their energy state.
Order does not imply design. Information does not imply intellect.
2006-08-25 13:24:32 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Some scientists tried this by giving a computer to a group of monkeys. They got pages and pages of material and 90% of it was the letter S. The computer was also defecated on.
2006-08-25 13:24:12 · answer #7 · answered by smartliketractor 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Given infinity, the profound unlikelihood of such a thing would be nullified.
Eventually - one of them would.
And before that - a few would get close first.
2006-08-25 15:18:37 · answer #8 · answered by Alexander Shannon 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If incidents kept occurring that retained correct letters and discarded incorrect letters, you'd have the Bible in a few hours.
2006-08-25 14:34:37 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
of course, all the trillion of trillion have a chance of "Accidently" typing bible
Now, the chances of a trillion of a trillion monkeys typing bible on "purpose" would be very very verrrrrrry rare
2006-08-25 13:26:00 · answer #10 · answered by West 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Wow, it changed from a typewriters to PC's and from a Shakespearian sonnet to the Bible. Um, no, I think their computers would become obsolete before they finished with "Let there be light."
best wishes.
2006-08-25 13:23:05 · answer #11 · answered by daisyk 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋